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Amazin69 · 03-30-2016, 05:10 AM

Okay, I guess I can manually keep the Syracusians caged for a year and then send them on their way in '63, and the same for the co-op DFW Rangers. Three other questions about the set-up before I move to the actual ML roster errors:

1) Do the players who spent the whole season in non-included leagues (such as the Western Carolinas League, mentioned above) reappear next year, or will they have to be added in, manually? I mean, the Mets didn't assign many top prospects to Salisbury, but Jerry Johnson did have a 10-year career in the show, and even got Cy Young and MVP votes in 1971. Hate to have him vanish, even if the Mets thought he was a 3rd Baseman.

2) What about conditional purchase agreements? The Mets had already returned Johnny Antonelli to Milwaukee and Billy Loes to the Giants before the game starts, but they still had Bob Botz and Neil Chrisley (Braves) and Howie Nunn (Reds) in camp. They should at least be on the Mets' roster, but I don't know if there's a way to code it so that the Mets either have to keep them on the active roster or return them, as it appears was the case. Should be similar to the Rule V draft, I suppose.

3) Is there anyway to account for trades where there was still a PBTNL dangling? The Mets have Frank Thomas, but they owed Milwaukee something for him. And the reason the Dodgers send Willard Hunter to the Mets in May is because he's the last piece of the Lee Walls/Charlie Neal trade from the winter meetings. Just a hunch, but I think the Mets will need all the help they can get…

It's also a little disconcerting to see guys who signed as amateurs during the season already on the rosters. Ed Kranepool was still at James Monroe H.S. in the Bronx in March (signed June 27), but you have him on the team. Don't know what can be done here, though. (There are about 25 players in this category, including one Hall of Famer, Fergie Jenkins.)

Okay, now for the actual errors:

• Ted Lepcio is listed as retired. He's actually in camp with the Mets, having signed on after the Twins released him in October and didn't hang them up until the Mets cut him in April.

• Aubrey Gatewood is listed with the Tri-City Braves, an unaffiliated team in the Northwest League. But the Mets had actually taken him as a Rule V pick from the Angels, and he should be listed with them as such.

• The Mets' other Rule V pick, Bob Moorhead (Reds) is correctly on the team, but he should have the "!" coding that Rule V picks get, to indicate he can't go to the minors.

• Harry Chiti is with the Mets. This is incorrect, he should be with Cleveland. The "Harry Chiti for, um, Harry Chiti" trade doesn't happen until April 26, with Chiti being sent back to the Tribe on June 15.

•Rick Herrscher is with the Mets' Quincy farm. He should still be with Milwaukee; he doesn't join the Mets until May 21, when the Mets send Gus Bell to Milwaukee as the PTBNL in the Frank Thomas trade. Herrscher comes back to balance the deal.

• Larry Foss is with the Mets' Santa Barbara farm. He should be with Pittsburgh; he spends the season in their system (Asheville, Columbus) until the Mets get him on waivers on September 6.

And one minor uniform number error; you have Jim Hickman wearing #99 (who is he, Turk Wendell?) when it should be #9.

More corrections to follow.

03-30-2016, 05:10 AM	#176
Amazin69 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,218 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	Cool it on the co-ops, okay. Okay, I guess I can manually keep the Syracusians caged for a year and then send them on their way in '63, and the same for the co-op DFW Rangers. Three other questions about the set-up before I move to the actual ML roster errors: 1) Do the players who spent the whole season in non-included leagues (such as the Western Carolinas League, mentioned above) reappear next year, or will they have to be added in, manually? I mean, the Mets didn't assign many top prospects to Salisbury, but Jerry Johnson did have a 10-year career in the show, and even got Cy Young and MVP votes in 1971. Hate to have him vanish, even if the Mets thought he was a 3rd Baseman. 2) What about conditional purchase agreements? The Mets had already returned Johnny Antonelli to Milwaukee and Billy Loes to the Giants before the game starts, but they still had Bob Botz and Neil Chrisley (Braves) and Howie Nunn (Reds) in camp. They should at least be on the Mets' roster, but I don't know if there's a way to code it so that the Mets either have to keep them on the active roster or return them, as it appears was the case. Should be similar to the Rule V draft, I suppose. 3) Is there anyway to account for trades where there was still a PBTNL dangling? The Mets have Frank Thomas, but they owed Milwaukee something for him. And the reason the Dodgers send Willard Hunter to the Mets in May is because he's the last piece of the Lee Walls/Charlie Neal trade from the winter meetings. Just a hunch, but I think the Mets will need all the help they can get… It's also a little disconcerting to see guys who signed as amateurs during the season already on the rosters. Ed Kranepool was still at James Monroe H.S. in the Bronx in March (signed June 27), but you have him on the team. Don't know what can be done here, though. (There are about 25 players in this category, including one Hall of Famer, Fergie Jenkins.) Okay, now for the actual errors: • Ted Lepcio is listed as retired. He's actually in camp with the Mets, having signed on after the Twins released him in October and didn't hang them up until the Mets cut him in April. • Aubrey Gatewood is listed with the Tri-City Braves, an unaffiliated team in the Northwest League. But the Mets had actually taken him as a Rule V pick from the Angels, and he should be listed with them as such. • The Mets' other Rule V pick, Bob Moorhead (Reds) is correctly on the team, but he should have the "!" coding that Rule V picks get, to indicate he can't go to the minors. • Harry Chiti is with the Mets. This is incorrect, he should be with Cleveland. The "Harry Chiti for, um, Harry Chiti" trade doesn't happen until April 26, with Chiti being sent back to the Tribe on June 15. •Rick Herrscher is with the Mets' Quincy farm. He should still be with Milwaukee; he doesn't join the Mets until May 21, when the Mets send Gus Bell to Milwaukee as the PTBNL in the Frank Thomas trade. Herrscher comes back to balance the deal. • Larry Foss is with the Mets' Santa Barbara farm. He should be with Pittsburgh; he spends the season in their system (Asheville, Columbus) until the Mets get him on waivers on September 6. And one minor uniform number error; you have Jim Hickman wearing #99 (who is he, Turk Wendell?) when it should be #9. More corrections to follow. Last edited by Amazin69; 03-30-2016 at 05:14 AM.