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Originally Posted by lukasberger

What does that have to do with the Most Valuable Player Award?

It's an award for being the most valuable player, not for the most winning player. It's not the "Best Player on A Winning Team Award".

You're trying to make the award something it's not and never was. Winning is its own award/reward.

You're making a point which is worth discussing but you're making it in connection with something that's only tangentially related your point at best as far as I can see. You can make the case that winning is somehow undervalued without applying to an award that by definition has nothing to do with winning. Winning is a team endeavor, the MVP is an individual award.

If you're going to take that line for the MVP award, shouldn't it apply to every other award as well, Rookie of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, Gold Glove etc. etc. None of those awards are team awards, they're all individual awards, where the performance around rest of the team around the player is, or should be, completely irrelevant.

That's just my personal opinion of course and I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, but I truly have a hard time seeing where you're coming from.

No one said winning isn't valuable, just that it has nothing, or at least very little, to do with an individual award.

In other words, "winning is valuable, it just has nothing to do with who's valuable." That actually makes sense to you? "Canines are dogs, but canines have nothing to do with the best dog in the show".

Winning does have something to do with it. The fact that the nerds who worship the god of math have made it immaterial doesn't mean that's the way it has been from the award's conception.

We are talking about the LEAGUE'S MVP. No other team sport gives it's MVP to a player from a losing team. None. 77-84 should disqualify him from consideration just as if he hit .230. No one can convince me other wise.