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Amazin69 · 12-02-2016, 07:30 PM

One more case where the "Two First Names Creates a Döppelgänger" issue comes up, only this is caused by a player with a two-word nickname.

Created a 1962 league (for a different purpose) and the Pirates have the services of "Vinegar Bend" Mizell, with the Historic ID (mizelvi01) and the major-league stats…but their AAA team, the Columbus Jets, have a guy named Vinegar "Bend Mizell", using the Historic Minors ID (mizell002wil) and having the minor-league stats, but nothing showing since 1951, as Mizell had been in the majors since then. Again, please reintegrate.

Perhaps this entire scenario could be avoided by listing the future congressman as "Wilmer Mizell" and putting "Vinegar Bend" as a nickname, which it was? To be fair, though, I don't know how often people called him "Wilmer". I'd have to dig out my copy of The Long Season to see what Jim Brosnan says; they were teammates on the 1959 Cardinals. (Although I seem to recall "Broz" calling Mizell "Miz", which would be no help at all…)

Who else do we have this problem with? Bullet Joe Bush? Sad Sam Jones? Piano Legs Hickman? Sigh…

ETA: Oy vey. And also, "Oy vey".

While Hickman is logically filed away as "Charlie 'Piano Legs' Hickman", Bush comes up as: Bullet Joe "Bullet Joe" Bush, his sobriquet listed both as if it were his legal name AND his nickname, which is clearly one Bullet more than the gun is supposed to hold. So this needs to be cleaned up, and that's not even considering the possibility that there's some duplicate with the first name "Bullet" and the surname "Joe Bush" running around with Bush's minor-league stats, which I can't see from the perspective of my 1962 game, because they get deleted (as discussed above). But even without creating a 1927 or whatever game, I can see that Bush needs fixing.

Same problem for Sad Sam "Sad Sam" Jones, who must be very Sad Sad that he's subject to that much despair. Sigh Sigh.

12-02-2016, 07:30 PM	#650
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 3,893 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Two Names, Two Players…Too Many, again One more case where the "Two First Names Creates a Döppelgänger" issue comes up, only this is caused by a player with a two-word nickname. Created a 1962 league (for a different purpose) and the Pirates have the services of "Vinegar Bend" Mizell, with the Historic ID (mizelvi01) and the major-league stats…but their AAA team, the Columbus Jets, have a guy named Vinegar "Bend Mizell", using the Historic Minors ID (mizell002wil) and having the minor-league stats, but nothing showing since 1951, as Mizell had been in the majors since then. Again, please reintegrate. Perhaps this entire scenario could be avoided by listing the future congressman as "Wilmer Mizell" and putting "Vinegar Bend" as a nickname, which it was? To be fair, though, I don't know how often people called him "Wilmer". I'd have to dig out my copy of The Long Season to see what Jim Brosnan says; they were teammates on the 1959 Cardinals. (Although I seem to recall "Broz" calling Mizell "Miz", which would be no help at all…) Who else do we have this problem with? Bullet Joe Bush? Sad Sam Jones? Piano Legs Hickman? Sigh… ETA: Oy vey. And also, "Oy vey". While Hickman is logically filed away as "Charlie 'Piano Legs' Hickman", Bush comes up as: Bullet Joe "Bullet Joe" Bush, his sobriquet listed both as if it were his legal name AND his nickname, which is clearly one Bullet more than the gun is supposed to hold. So this needs to be cleaned up, and that's not even considering the possibility that there's some duplicate with the first name "Bullet" and the surname "Joe Bush" running around with Bush's minor-league stats, which I can't see from the perspective of my 1962 game, because they get deleted (as discussed above). But even without creating a 1927 or whatever game, I can see that Bush needs fixing. Same problem for Sad Sam "Sad Sam" Jones, who must be very Sad Sad that he's subject to that much despair. Sigh Sigh. Last edited by Amazin69; 12-02-2016 at 07:46 PM.