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Amazin69 · 12-07-2016, 06:01 PM

Good point that the display name is merely cosmetic, but we still do have to worry about more doppelgangers being out there. I guess there's no problem for Bush or Jones because their minor-league careers came from before we have historic minors and I see that "Pee-Wee" Wanninger used a hyphen, so we don't have to worry about the "Wee" part running off with "Wanninger" to make a second player, but I'm thinking there's probably a second Pee Wee Reese out there, holding Harold's minor-league stats separate from his MLB ones. Haven't done a test league to check though, yet.

Different issue: the minor league San Diego Padres are coming up as a major league team in players' stats, and this is throwing off the career MLB totals.

I mean, it's nice that my game's Hall of Fame voted in Minnie Minoso in just his third year on the ballot when IRL Minnie still isn't in…but part of that is because they thought he had 2323 career hits (IRL 1963) and a .302 lifetime BA (IRL .298) due to his 1949-1950 seasons in San Diego being misclassified. Please fix this.

As far as I can determine, the cutoff point seems to be whether you played minor-league ball after 1945; 1945 Padres Dick Gyselman and Pete Coscarart had their stats included in their career totals, because they kept going for a few more years, but player-manager Pepper Martin hung up his spikes after the season and his 1945 San Diego totals are not listed, either as MLB or AAA stats. And it can go back farther; Steve Mesner had a big year for the Pads in 1940 and returned to SD in the latter part of the decade, and so all of those seasons are in his career "major league" totals now.

And I'm just guessing that the reason this is only happening for the Padres is that they are the only PCL team to use the same name as a major-league franchise currently does. If the Oaks, Seals or Rainiers had been succeeded by a MLB team with the same nickname, we'd probably be seeing more of it. But apparently the Los Angeles/California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels (of Anaheim) don't correspond closely enough with the PCL version of the Los Angeles Angels for the issue to recur, up there.

Again, thanks in advance.

12-07-2016, 06:01 PM	#656
Amazin69 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,218 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	Good point that the display name is merely cosmetic, but we still do have to worry about more doppelgangers being out there. I guess there's no problem for Bush or Jones because their minor-league careers came from before we have historic minors and I see that "Pee-Wee" Wanninger used a hyphen, so we don't have to worry about the "Wee" part running off with "Wanninger" to make a second player, but I'm thinking there's probably a second Pee Wee Reese out there, holding Harold's minor-league stats separate from his MLB ones. Haven't done a test league to check though, yet. Different issue: the minor league San Diego Padres are coming up as a major league team in players' stats, and this is throwing off the career MLB totals. I mean, it's nice that my game's Hall of Fame voted in Minnie Minoso in just his third year on the ballot when IRL Minnie still isn't in…but part of that is because they thought he had 2323 career hits (IRL 1963) and a .302 lifetime BA (IRL .298) due to his 1949-1950 seasons in San Diego being misclassified. Please fix this. As far as I can determine, the cutoff point seems to be whether you played minor-league ball after 1945; 1945 Padres Dick Gyselman and Pete Coscarart had their stats included in their career totals, because they kept going for a few more years, but player-manager Pepper Martin hung up his spikes after the season and his 1945 San Diego totals are not listed, either as MLB or AAA stats. And it can go back farther; Steve Mesner had a big year for the Pads in 1940 and returned to SD in the latter part of the decade, and so all of those seasons are in his career "major league" totals now. And I'm just guessing that the reason this is only happening for the Padres is that they are the only PCL team to use the same name as a major-league franchise currently does. If the Oaks, Seals or Rainiers had been succeeded by a MLB team with the same nickname, we'd probably be seeing more of it. But apparently the Los Angeles/California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels (of Anaheim) don't correspond closely enough with the PCL version of the Los Angeles Angels for the issue to recur, up there. Again, thanks in advance.