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actionjackson · 12-26-2017, 09:48 PM

Top ten NL MVP for 1957:

1. Bill Foster, 25, ML1, LHSP
2. Walter Johnson, 23, CHC, RHSP
3. Hal Trosky Sr., 26, BRO, 1B
4. John Kane, 26, STL, CF/SS/2B/3B
5. Jose Quintana, 26, STL, LHSP
6. Ginger Beaumont, 27, BRO, CF
7. Tom Seaver, 26, BRO, RHSP
8. Hal Morris, 23, PIT, RF
9. Greg Swindell, 21, PIT, LHSP
10. Eddie Hogan, 25, ML1, RHRP

Top five NL CYA for 1957:

1. Bill Foster, 25, ML1, LHSP
2. Walter Johnson, 23, CHC, RHSP
3. Jose Quintana, 26, STL, LHSP
4. Tom Seaver, 26, BRO, RHSP
5. Greg Swindell, 21, PIT, LHSP

Top three NL Mariano Rivera Award for 1957:

1. Eddie Hogan, 25, ML1, RHRP
2. Chief Yellow Horse, 23, BRO, RHRP
3. Steve Cishek, 26, ML1, RHRP

Top three NL Jackie Robinson Award for 1957:

1. Tony Perez, 21, PIT, 3B
2. Junior Thompson, 20, NY1, RHRP
3. Wally Post, 18, ML1, CF

What a season for Hal Trosky Sr! A .339/.409/.526/.935 slash line (165 OPS+, 166 wRC+) with 99 R, 223 H, 40 2B, 4 3B, 25 HR, 129 RBI, 80 BB, and just 58 K. The only reason he didn't win MVP was the transcendent pitching of Bill Foster and Walter Johnson. He was certainly qualified for it, but they were fantastic in 1957. Foster went 17-10, 2.27 ERA (170 ERA+), 2.16 FIP, and a 0.98 WHIP. He allowed just 198 H in 250.0 IP, to go with just 46 BB against 230 K and only 10 HRA. Johnson was 20-6 (on a team that went just 73-89!), with a 2.46 ERA (157 ERA+), 2.37 FIP, and a 0.91 WHIP. He gave up just 184 H in a league leading 263.1 IP, walking just 55, while striking out 272, and allowing 17 HR.

Trosky Sr.'s team won the big prize though, and they did it in style. They erased a 3-1 deficit to come back and win in seven games with a combined score of 20-6 in those games. Trosky Sr. was the MVP of both the NLCS and the World Series. I don't keep track of such things, but off the top of my head that's a pretty rare combination. Not only was he the best position player and hitter in the National League for the regular season, but he was able to keep that up through the postseason as well. And how! He hit a whopping .411/.476/.661/1.137 (23 for 56) with 10 R, 3 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 7 BB, and 7 K for the two series, leading his team to their fourth title.

The only downside is that the Dodgers joined the Giants in abandoning New York for California, with the Dodgers moving to Los Angeles and the Giants moving to San Francisco. I wonder if that would've happened IRL if one of the teams had won the World Series. Makes it a bit more difficult to justify moving. Ah, who am I kidding? They still would've done it 'cause money talks.

Side note: 2B Carlos Febles was at it again for the St. Louis Cardinals, despite his team losing in six to the Dodgers. He hit .400/.444/.720/1.164 with 4 R, 10 H, 3 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 2 BB, and 3 K. He now owns a postseason line of .323/.377/.629/1.006 (183 OPS+, 187 wRC+) with 9 R, 20 H, 3 2B, 2 3B, 4 HR, 9 RBI, 6 BB, 7 K, 3 SB, and 2 CS in 69 career postseason plate appearances. In 1368 regular season plate appearances, he's at .264/.344/.379/.723 (108 OPS+, 107 wRC+) with 159 R, 317 H, 37 2B, 20 3B, 20 HR, 147 RBI, 139 BB, 160 K, 50 SB, and 24 CS. I know the postseason represents a very small sample size, but at what point do you start believing in the magic? He'll probably regress if he gets more postseason appearances, but it's interesting to watch for sure.

12-26-2017, 09:48 PM	#339
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,179	Top ten NL MVP for 1957: 1. Bill Foster, 25, ML1, LHSP 2. Walter Johnson, 23, CHC, RHSP 3. Hal Trosky Sr., 26, BRO, 1B 4. John Kane, 26, STL, CF/SS/2B/3B 5. Jose Quintana, 26, STL, LHSP 6. Ginger Beaumont, 27, BRO, CF 7. Tom Seaver, 26, BRO, RHSP 8. Hal Morris, 23, PIT, RF 9. Greg Swindell, 21, PIT, LHSP 10. Eddie Hogan, 25, ML1, RHRP Top five NL CYA for 1957: 1. Bill Foster, 25, ML1, LHSP 2. Walter Johnson, 23, CHC, RHSP 3. Jose Quintana, 26, STL, LHSP 4. Tom Seaver, 26, BRO, RHSP 5. Greg Swindell, 21, PIT, LHSP Top three NL Mariano Rivera Award for 1957: 1. Eddie Hogan, 25, ML1, RHRP 2. Chief Yellow Horse, 23, BRO, RHRP 3. Steve Cishek, 26, ML1, RHRP Top three NL Jackie Robinson Award for 1957: 1. Tony Perez, 21, PIT, 3B 2. Junior Thompson, 20, NY1, RHRP 3. Wally Post, 18, ML1, CF What a season for Hal Trosky Sr! A .339/.409/.526/.935 slash line (165 OPS+, 166 wRC+) with 99 R, 223 H, 40 2B, 4 3B, 25 HR, 129 RBI, 80 BB, and just 58 K. The only reason he didn't win MVP was the transcendent pitching of Bill Foster and Walter Johnson. He was certainly qualified for it, but they were fantastic in 1957. Foster went 17-10, 2.27 ERA (170 ERA+), 2.16 FIP, and a 0.98 WHIP. He allowed just 198 H in 250.0 IP, to go with just 46 BB against 230 K and only 10 HRA. Johnson was 20-6 (on a team that went just 73-89!), with a 2.46 ERA (157 ERA+), 2.37 FIP, and a 0.91 WHIP. He gave up just 184 H in a league leading 263.1 IP, walking just 55, while striking out 272, and allowing 17 HR. Trosky Sr.'s team won the big prize though, and they did it in style. They erased a 3-1 deficit to come back and win in seven games with a combined score of 20-6 in those games. Trosky Sr. was the MVP of both the NLCS and the World Series. I don't keep track of such things, but off the top of my head that's a pretty rare combination. Not only was he the best position player and hitter in the National League for the regular season, but he was able to keep that up through the postseason as well. And how! He hit a whopping .411/.476/.661/1.137 (23 for 56) with 10 R, 3 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 7 BB, and 7 K for the two series, leading his team to their fourth title. The only downside is that the Dodgers joined the Giants in abandoning New York for California, with the Dodgers moving to Los Angeles and the Giants moving to San Francisco. I wonder if that would've happened IRL if one of the teams had won the World Series. Makes it a bit more difficult to justify moving. Ah, who am I kidding? They still would've done it 'cause money talks. Side note: 2B Carlos Febles was at it again for the St. Louis Cardinals, despite his team losing in six to the Dodgers. He hit .400/.444/.720/1.164 with 4 R, 10 H, 3 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 2 BB, and 3 K. He now owns a postseason line of .323/.377/.629/1.006 (183 OPS+, 187 wRC+) with 9 R, 20 H, 3 2B, 2 3B, 4 HR, 9 RBI, 6 BB, 7 K, 3 SB, and 2 CS in 69 career postseason plate appearances. In 1368 regular season plate appearances, he's at .264/.344/.379/.723 (108 OPS+, 107 wRC+) with 159 R, 317 H, 37 2B, 20 3B, 20 HR, 147 RBI, 139 BB, 160 K, 50 SB, and 24 CS. I know the postseason represents a very small sample size, but at what point do you start believing in the magic? He'll probably regress if he gets more postseason appearances, but it's interesting to watch for sure. Last edited by actionjackson; 12-26-2017 at 11:10 PM.