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NoOne · 04-27-2018, 05:36 PM

unless it's a max / max+ speed and stealing ability, it will mostly depend on context. those guys can maintain a higher % even if you do the things i speak about below.

things that reduce %:

if you try to steal every single time your 'fast' player is on base, by the 2nd/3rd single the ai will 'hold runner' way more often... stealing a 2nd+ time reduces %'s.

if you try to steal and he either doesn't go or whatever... then continue to mash on 'steal 2nd' that will also be a reduced chance. they are definitely 'holding runner' every pitch after that.

the ai will even start using pitchouts and such if you always mash steal with 1 player.

a 60-80speed (out of 100) with 60-80 stealing isn't going to do more than 20-40sb a year.. so if you try an attempt, don't keep clicking with those types if it doesn't work out the first time. wait for the next time they get a single/double. not all 80spd/80 stealing players will do ~50sb a year.

steal when it's less expected -- not on 0-0 but 0-1 or 1-1- etc.. mix it up a bit. obviously, i don't recommend stealing with 2 strikes.

i notice a ramp up for many of the speedy guys. they seem to get better at it with a little bit of experience... a year or 2 from what i observe with a naked eye (ie total guess, lol, take with a grain of salt). i don't play games out but i adjust the individual game strategies for stealing per player.. if a rookie and max steal/speed rating i will not use as high of a slider for stealing.. maybe middle or 1-2 ticks up... once they show they can steal ~80%, or thereabouts, i bump it up to the dark blue area over time... if they maintain a high percentage i keep bumping it up. (my coach is a middle slider for stealing frequency, it is relative to that -- if i have a high frequency stelaing coach, i won't start at the "middle" for individual sliders -- all relative to overall strategies for team as outlined by coach.)

the numbers i used are based somewhere near default settings for SB/sb%. if you elevate or reduce these modifiers after auto-calculating them, you can increase expectations. ootp18 i had it for ~4500steals a year with a ~71-72% league average. that's probably a bit elevated compared to default. ... but it allows teh max+ guys to break 100SB a year, which is how i make that decisions about the SB/SB% modifiers.

04-27-2018, 05:36 PM	#19
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	unless it's a max / max+ speed and stealing ability, it will mostly depend on context. those guys can maintain a higher % even if you do the things i speak about below. things that reduce %: if you try to steal every single time your 'fast' player is on base, by the 2nd/3rd single the ai will 'hold runner' way more often... stealing a 2nd+ time reduces %'s. if you try to steal and he either doesn't go or whatever... then continue to mash on 'steal 2nd' that will also be a reduced chance. they are definitely 'holding runner' every pitch after that. the ai will even start using pitchouts and such if you always mash steal with 1 player. a 60-80speed (out of 100) with 60-80 stealing isn't going to do more than 20-40sb a year.. so if you try an attempt, don't keep clicking with those types if it doesn't work out the first time. wait for the next time they get a single/double. not all 80spd/80 stealing players will do ~50sb a year. steal when it's less expected -- not on 0-0 but 0-1 or 1-1- etc.. mix it up a bit. obviously, i don't recommend stealing with 2 strikes. i notice a ramp up for many of the speedy guys. they seem to get better at it with a little bit of experience... a year or 2 from what i observe with a naked eye (ie total guess, lol, take with a grain of salt). i don't play games out but i adjust the individual game strategies for stealing per player.. if a rookie and max steal/speed rating i will not use as high of a slider for stealing.. maybe middle or 1-2 ticks up... once they show they can steal ~80%, or thereabouts, i bump it up to the dark blue area over time... if they maintain a high percentage i keep bumping it up. (my coach is a middle slider for stealing frequency, it is relative to that -- if i have a high frequency stelaing coach, i won't start at the "middle" for individual sliders -- all relative to overall strategies for team as outlined by coach.) the numbers i used are based somewhere near default settings for SB/sb%. if you elevate or reduce these modifiers after auto-calculating them, you can increase expectations. ootp18 i had it for ~4500steals a year with a ~71-72% league average. that's probably a bit elevated compared to default. ... but it allows teh max+ guys to break 100SB a year, which is how i make that decisions about the SB/SB% modifiers. Last edited by NoOne; 04-27-2018 at 05:42 PM.