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Qeltar · 05-25-2018, 10:09 AM

Pivoting can also be boiled down to range, catching and throwing without errors. So taking that approach, they could have omitted the "turn DP" rating entirely if they wanted to.

I mean, how much more difficult is it for a 2B to run to second base to catch a ball and quickly throw it to first than for a 2B to range to his right to field a batted ball and quickly throw it to first? I'd argue that they are comparable at best, and catching a ball tossed by a teammate is easier than one hit on the ground.

But it makes sense to have it as a separate skill, and it also makes sense to have it for all infielders, not just middle infielders. IMO you underestimate the importance of efficiently starting a DP in being able to pull the DP off. And 6-4-3s and 4-6-3s are usually among the least difficult DPs compared to the rarer ones that involve other infielders -- 3Bs have a longer throw and often off-balance after a difficult field, and 1Bs have to be involved in the DP twice. DPs started by pitchers are rare for a reason. Catchers even more rare, but there it's because of how plays start, so I am not sure how much it should matter for that position.

I'd weight "turn DP" heavier for 2B and SS but it definitely has applicability for 3B and 1B, to a lesser extent P, and to an even lesser extent C.

05-25-2018, 10:09 AM	#32
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	Pivoting can also be boiled down to range, catching and throwing without errors. So taking that approach, they could have omitted the "turn DP" rating entirely if they wanted to. I mean, how much more difficult is it for a 2B to run to second base to catch a ball and quickly throw it to first than for a 2B to range to his right to field a batted ball and quickly throw it to first? I'd argue that they are comparable at best, and catching a ball tossed by a teammate is easier than one hit on the ground. But it makes sense to have it as a separate skill, and it also makes sense to have it for all infielders, not just middle infielders. IMO you underestimate the importance of efficiently starting a DP in being able to pull the DP off. And 6-4-3s and 4-6-3s are usually among the least difficult DPs compared to the rarer ones that involve other infielders -- 3Bs have a longer throw and often off-balance after a difficult field, and 1Bs have to be involved in the DP twice. DPs started by pitchers are rare for a reason. Catchers even more rare, but there it's because of how plays start, so I am not sure how much it should matter for that position. I'd weight "turn DP" heavier for 2B and SS but it definitely has applicability for 3B and 1B, to a lesser extent P, and to an even lesser extent C. Last edited by Qeltar; 05-25-2018 at 10:13 AM.