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Drstrangelove · 06-17-2018, 08:33 AM

Thanks for the reply. I hadn't considered either of those. These are some good ideas, so I went to look at the data:

1) Adaptability - Games Earned (scores are below. E.g., Player 1 had a rating of 47 and earned 72 "game" XP in 8 spring training games.

47 - 72
44 - 32
13 - 34
7 - 84
2 - 66

These are only a few data points, but these numbers are not correlated (r = -.27.)

2) Using the spectrum, (DH - 1B - LF - RF - 3B - CF - 2B - SS):

Player 1 earned 10 points in 5 games in CF, but a higher rate, 24 in 3 games in LF, which agrees with the spectrum.

Player 2 skipped as he played the same position in all 8 games.

Player 3 earned 20 points in 5 games in LF, but 12 in 3 games in CF, so, the same rate, which does not agree with the spectrum.

Player 4 earned 36 points in 5 games at 1B, but 30 in 3 games at SS, a higher rate, which does not agree with the spectrum.

And player 5 earned 10 points per game in every game whether 3B or 1B, which does not agree with the spectrum.

So, I'd say, in this small sample, the spectrum isn't supported, at least, as single variable.

When I examined this in OOTP 18, it was a flat 11 per game for everyone at every position, with no modifiers. (I.e., play 10 spring training games, and you will get 110 games added to XP up to the cap of 200.)

I also considered the following:

3) Work Ethic and Intelligence. Work Ethic was r=.41, intelligence was r=.66. Again, only a handful of data points, but not clearly explaining this.

4) I also looked at whether game XP was being earned on some type of diminishing returns, so the early XP comes faster than the last XP. (Not sure that'd be done if skill sets are designed along bell curves, but I looked anyway.) One player learning a new position earned 10 points per game, while a second player was only getting 4 per game. So, that would suggest that it's not diminishing returns.

5) Random versus step-wise skill attainment. Is it random? (In 6 times out of 40 game-scores, a player earned zero, which suggests it could be random.) Moreover, I had two cases of back to back games where a player earned zero XP despite playing a full game. (This would I think exclude partial credits that rolled over into the next game.)

06-17-2018, 08:33 AM	#3
Drstrangelove Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 346	Thanks for the reply. I hadn't considered either of those. These are some good ideas, so I went to look at the data: 1) Adaptability - Games Earned (scores are below. E.g., Player 1 had a rating of 47 and earned 72 "game" XP in 8 spring training games. 47 - 72 44 - 32 13 - 34 7 - 84 2 - 66 These are only a few data points, but these numbers are not correlated (r = -.27.) 2) Using the spectrum, (DH - 1B - LF - RF - 3B - CF - 2B - SS): Player 1 earned 10 points in 5 games in CF, but a higher rate, 24 in 3 games in LF, which agrees with the spectrum. Player 2 skipped as he played the same position in all 8 games. Player 3 earned 20 points in 5 games in LF, but 12 in 3 games in CF, so, the same rate, which does not agree with the spectrum. Player 4 earned 36 points in 5 games at 1B, but 30 in 3 games at SS, a higher rate, which does not agree with the spectrum. And player 5 earned 10 points per game in every game whether 3B or 1B, which does not agree with the spectrum. So, I'd say, in this small sample, the spectrum isn't supported, at least, as single variable. When I examined this in OOTP 18, it was a flat 11 per game for everyone at every position, with no modifiers. (I.e., play 10 spring training games, and you will get 110 games added to XP up to the cap of 200.) I also considered the following: 3) Work Ethic and Intelligence. Work Ethic was r=.41, intelligence was r=.66. Again, only a handful of data points, but not clearly explaining this. 4) I also looked at whether game XP was being earned on some type of diminishing returns, so the early XP comes faster than the last XP. (Not sure that'd be done if skill sets are designed along bell curves, but I looked anyway.) One player learning a new position earned 10 points per game, while a second player was only getting 4 per game. So, that would suggest that it's not diminishing returns. 5) Random versus step-wise skill attainment. Is it random? (In 6 times out of 40 game-scores, a player earned zero, which suggests it could be random.) Moreover, I had two cases of back to back games where a player earned zero XP despite playing a full game. (This would I think exclude partial credits that rolled over into the next game.) Last edited by Drstrangelove; 06-17-2018 at 09:04 AM.