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NoOne · 07-27-2018, 11:36 PM

alot of it depends on expectations. not everyone has the same rotation quality for all sorts of reasons not limited to cheating.

if you are talking about an ace, i think that's roughly the same for all teams, even if you may not be able to afford the most greedy ones for an extended period of time. sticking to aces, and tone down what's necessary per cost restrictions.

Stuff is important stat as far as how high you want it to go... near max or better max plus in this case. mix that with good hr/9 and adequate bb/9 results and you have a perennial cy young candidate. a low whip basically comes along with that package too.

movement and control require some results to be certain of their effectiveness. e.g. movement is not the only factor of hr/9 and control is not the only factor of bb/9. while not the only thing they probably each factor into, those are probably the most directlly related.

in cases of deviation from expected results (assuming relative to 1/2 scale = average stats), i'd pay attention to their repertoire of pitches. what's included, ratio of qualties - e.g. 1 dark blue, 2 teals, or 1 max+ and a couple blue-green grey area types etc etc anything that you can delineate due to differences / attributes... that affects how much of each pitch is thrown. probably good stuff to take note of to figure out why. each league can be different unless challenge mode or strictly default etc...

maybe babip against related to movement too? it just takes so long for babip to flesh out. it takes 1500ip? it's high, whatever it is. i usually don't look because after that many years i've decided based on overall results.

babip is an input in your stats and ai screen too, so if auto-calculated it should be near that... larger the league the less volatile league wide babip wil be year-to-year. 30T league it may sway +/- .010-ish? maybe a bit less or more. even if not auto-calced you can eye ball it and be in a good ballpark relative to this use. ~.300? ~.305? who cares if off a little. in a ~.300babip leauge you may not be too worried about a guy around ~.310 with good results, but you start pushing ~.320-.350 on a consistent basis (NOT RP) and higher and it spells doom no matter how many k/9 or bb/9.

rp are all over the board with babip against... i've seen back to back ~.350years then a hall of fame career with 500+ save and a couple more hiccups along the way because he's an rp and that's what they do.

07-27-2018, 11:36 PM	#21
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	alot of it depends on expectations. not everyone has the same rotation quality for all sorts of reasons not limited to cheating. if you are talking about an ace, i think that's roughly the same for all teams, even if you may not be able to afford the most greedy ones for an extended period of time. sticking to aces, and tone down what's necessary per cost restrictions. Stuff is important stat as far as how high you want it to go... near max or better max plus in this case. mix that with good hr/9 and adequate bb/9 results and you have a perennial cy young candidate. a low whip basically comes along with that package too. movement and control require some results to be certain of their effectiveness. e.g. movement is not the only factor of hr/9 and control is not the only factor of bb/9. while not the only thing they probably each factor into, those are probably the most directlly related. in cases of deviation from expected results (assuming relative to 1/2 scale = average stats), i'd pay attention to their repertoire of pitches. what's included, ratio of qualties - e.g. 1 dark blue, 2 teals, or 1 max+ and a couple blue-green grey area types etc etc anything that you can delineate due to differences / attributes... that affects how much of each pitch is thrown. probably good stuff to take note of to figure out why. each league can be different unless challenge mode or strictly default etc... maybe babip against related to movement too? it just takes so long for babip to flesh out. it takes 1500ip? it's high, whatever it is. i usually don't look because after that many years i've decided based on overall results. babip is an input in your stats and ai screen too, so if auto-calculated it should be near that... larger the league the less volatile league wide babip wil be year-to-year. 30T league it may sway +/- .010-ish? maybe a bit less or more. even if not auto-calced you can eye ball it and be in a good ballpark relative to this use. ~.300? ~.305? who cares if off a little. in a ~.300babip leauge you may not be too worried about a guy around ~.310 with good results, but you start pushing ~.320-.350 on a consistent basis (NOT RP) and higher and it spells doom no matter how many k/9 or bb/9. rp are all over the board with babip against... i've seen back to back ~.350years then a hall of fame career with 500+ save and a couple more hiccups along the way because he's an rp and that's what they do. Last edited by NoOne; 07-27-2018 at 11:41 PM.