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NoOne · 08-07-2018, 11:31 AM

i think of it as pitching out of the stretch or not... in addition to the obvious intended effects on the runner, i think it reduces pitcher ability a bit, relative to that rating's value of course.

ie in real life some pitchers aren't as good out of the stretch as others. in many cases they can lose a bit of velocity, so it's not just mythical in nature.

effect on runners? it holds them closer, reduces attempts... smaller sample -> volatility increased for certain... tough to tell by the eye. i swear bumping my coach's hold runner was a net positive, but my catcher's CS% has dipped, lol.... could be totally fooled by randomness, admittedly and likely so... i am not saying anything with certainty on that second part.

maybe they only stole in less important times and avoided it when the AI held runner etc... only, or more often than a lower hold runner strat + player rating for it, stole in extremely favorable conditions (ie not expecting it and little benefit -- down by 10 and 2 outs in nineth, type crap).

08-07-2018, 11:31 AM	#3
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	i think of it as pitching out of the stretch or not... in addition to the obvious intended effects on the runner, i think it reduces pitcher ability a bit, relative to that rating's value of course. ie in real life some pitchers aren't as good out of the stretch as others. in many cases they can lose a bit of velocity, so it's not just mythical in nature. effect on runners? it holds them closer, reduces attempts... smaller sample -> volatility increased for certain... tough to tell by the eye. i swear bumping my coach's hold runner was a net positive, but my catcher's CS% has dipped, lol.... could be totally fooled by randomness, admittedly and likely so... i am not saying anything with certainty on that second part. maybe they only stole in less important times and avoided it when the AI held runner etc... only, or more often than a lower hold runner strat + player rating for it, stole in extremely favorable conditions (ie not expecting it and little benefit -- down by 10 and 2 outs in nineth, type crap). Last edited by NoOne; 08-07-2018 at 11:38 AM.