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Argonaut · 01-06-2020, 03:02 PM

Yeah, 1972 Clay Carroll is a classic example of a guy looking better under traditional stats than advanced stats.

He only got so many saves because he was playing for a great team, the Big Red Machine. And I bet his ERA was low in part because he had these guys up the middle - Johnny Bench, Dave Concepcion, Joe Morgan.

In 1972 he had a 4.8 K/9.. that's not closer material in any era. Just didn't strike out enough guys, and OOTP won't like him for it. Lucky for him in real life that he was in the right place at the right time. Put 1972 Rollie Fingers with his 9.1 K/9 on the Reds instead and he'll look like a god in comparison. Rollie also had a similar HR/9 and better BB/9 than Carroll. Those are the stats that count in OOTP.

01-06-2020, 03:02 PM	#19
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	Yeah, 1972 Clay Carroll is a classic example of a guy looking better under traditional stats than advanced stats. He only got so many saves because he was playing for a great team, the Big Red Machine. And I bet his ERA was low in part because he had these guys up the middle - Johnny Bench, Dave Concepcion, Joe Morgan. In 1972 he had a 4.8 K/9.. that's not closer material in any era. Just didn't strike out enough guys, and OOTP won't like him for it. Lucky for him in real life that he was in the right place at the right time. Put 1972 Rollie Fingers with his 9.1 K/9 on the Reds instead and he'll look like a god in comparison. Rollie also had a similar HR/9 and better BB/9 than Carroll. Those are the stats that count in OOTP. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza Last edited by Argonaut; 01-06-2020 at 03:04 PM.