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BBGiovanni · 08-10-2020, 01:12 AM

NL East: Change the Mets to the Montreal Expos. O'Malley never abandons Brooklyn, so Bill Shea, Joan Payson, and Branch Rickey never need to bring the NL back to NY. SFGiants58 made an interesting "modern" Brooklyn Dodgers logo set, I'll post my conversions of those. The rest of the division keeps their unis.

NL West: Change the Braves to the Milwaukee Brewers. You can pretend Perini sold the Braves instead of moving them to ATL or that he decided to re-brand with the insanely-popular minor league team when they got to the Cream City. SFGiants58 did a fauxback Brewers set, I'll post them. Horace Stoneham had been planning an Escape from New York since O'Malley was a shifty bankruptcy lawyer for the firm handing the Dodgers' bailout, so the Minneapolis Giants are also in the western half of the NL. Golem64 converted SFGiants58's MIN set and I'm using those. At some point in the 60s baseball expanded to Texas, so the Astros are here too.

AL East: Mostly the same as the current division, except the Washington Senators never moved to Minnesota because Stoneham beat them there with his carpetbag; rename the Twins. Golem64 made up unis from SFGiants58s modern Senators designs which I'm using in my season.

AL West: Most of the current Central Division will fill this out. One of the 5,000,000 cities jerked around by Charlie Finley was Dallas: normally I leave the Athletics in KC but this time I decided to move the A's to Big D. SFGiants58 did a modern Dallas A's set; he also had a couple of fauxbacks so I tinkered with those to come up with a kelly green Dallas A's set because I love those colors so much.

Pacific Coast League: I'll go into more detail as to what I did and why as I post those, hopefully over the next week, but for now I'll list which teams I adapted for what.A few are pretty obvious: the LA Angels stay the LA Angels, the San Diego Padres stay as they are, and the Seattle Mariners get reskinned as the Rainiers and the Rockies become the Denver Bears. The other teams aren't too scientific, but I'm listing what I did so you don't have to work through the existing teams to fill out the PCL slots.

Portland Beavers: ex-Diamondbacks
Salt Lake Bees: ex-Marlins
Vancouver Salmon Kings: ex-Rays (note the Oakland Oaks moved to Vancouver in 1955 even before the Giants hit town)

San Francisco Seals: ex-Nationals (I just played a Mets season, so I left them as the Expos)
Hollywood Stars: ex-Brewers
Sacramento Solons: ex-Rangers

Final structure notes: You'll see no teams in the Deep South; if the PCL had been elevated to a major league in the 1950s, most of the cities in the south (particularly the ballparks) would have still been segregated. The Brewers had no reason to leave Milwaukee; the above teams should have been stable enough to not need Atlanta. Florida didn't get their teams until the 1990s, and the less said about those stories the better. Ditto for Phoenix... all these cities have AAA teams in my setup. I left the Texas League as an affiliate of the PCL even though they have no teams there. I have an idea for an alternate setup but it would involve a whole new league probably in CA. Maybe someday!

08-10-2020, 01:12 AM	#2
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,910	the North American Baseball Association NL East: Change the Mets to the Montreal Expos. O'Malley never abandons Brooklyn, so Bill Shea, Joan Payson, and Branch Rickey never need to bring the NL back to NY. SFGiants58 made an interesting "modern" Brooklyn Dodgers logo set, I'll post my conversions of those. The rest of the division keeps their unis. NL West: Change the Braves to the Milwaukee Brewers. You can pretend Perini sold the Braves instead of moving them to ATL or that he decided to re-brand with the insanely-popular minor league team when they got to the Cream City. SFGiants58 did a fauxback Brewers set, I'll post them. Horace Stoneham had been planning an Escape from New York since O'Malley was a shifty bankruptcy lawyer for the firm handing the Dodgers' bailout, so the Minneapolis Giants are also in the western half of the NL. Golem64 converted SFGiants58's MIN set and I'm using those. At some point in the 60s baseball expanded to Texas, so the Astros are here too. AL East: Mostly the same as the current division, except the Washington Senators never moved to Minnesota because Stoneham beat them there with his carpetbag; rename the Twins. Golem64 made up unis from SFGiants58s modern Senators designs which I'm using in my season. AL West: Most of the current Central Division will fill this out. One of the 5,000,000 cities jerked around by Charlie Finley was Dallas: normally I leave the Athletics in KC but this time I decided to move the A's to Big D. SFGiants58 did a modern Dallas A's set; he also had a couple of fauxbacks so I tinkered with those to come up with a kelly green Dallas A's set because I love those colors so much. Pacific Coast League: I'll go into more detail as to what I did and why as I post those, hopefully over the next week, but for now I'll list which teams I adapted for what.A few are pretty obvious: the LA Angels stay the LA Angels, the San Diego Padres stay as they are, and the Seattle Mariners get reskinned as the Rainiers and the Rockies become the Denver Bears. The other teams aren't too scientific, but I'm listing what I did so you don't have to work through the existing teams to fill out the PCL slots. Portland Beavers: ex-Diamondbacks Salt Lake Bees: ex-Marlins Vancouver Salmon Kings: ex-Rays (note the Oakland Oaks moved to Vancouver in 1955 even before the Giants hit town) San Francisco Seals: ex-Nationals (I just played a Mets season, so I left them as the Expos) Hollywood Stars: ex-Brewers Sacramento Solons: ex-Rangers Final structure notes: You'll see no teams in the Deep South; if the PCL had been elevated to a major league in the 1950s, most of the cities in the south (particularly the ballparks) would have still been segregated. The Brewers had no reason to leave Milwaukee; the above teams should have been stable enough to not need Atlanta. Florida didn't get their teams until the 1990s, and the less said about those stories the better. Ditto for Phoenix... all these cities have AAA teams in my setup. I left the Texas League as an affiliate of the PCL even though they have no teams there. I have an idea for an alternate setup but it would involve a whole new league probably in CA. Maybe someday! __________________ Let's Go (San Jose) Giants, Let's Go Mets! Current Project: WBAT/AABBA: Organized Base Ball And the "New Normal" World Baseball Aid Tournament 2023 trophy round underway! Last edited by BBGiovanni; 09-08-2021 at 05:02 PM.