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Old 09-10-2020, 10:06 AM   #55
joefromchicago
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Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post
I gave plenty of context.
No. No you didn't. Since your initial post, we have learned:
  • The bullpen was fully rested;
  • There were eight relievers available;
  • There were seven bench players;
  • That one of those guys was a two-way player;
  • You like puzzles.
You've mentioned this information because you thought it was relevant to your point. That information, therefore, must also have been relevant when you made your initial post. Yet you didn't include that information in your initial post. So no, you didn't provide "plenty of context." You provided a box score.

And your numbers don't add up. According to you, the Giants had: (a) seven relievers; (b) six bench players; (c) one two-way player. That's 14. Considering that you have eight position players and let's say four starters (it's the postseason, you can get away with four), that's 26 players. Now, your roster limit may, indeed, be 26, but then that would be yet another piece of the context that you still haven't provided.

In addition, at least one of those bench players wouldn't be available for regular pinch-hitting duties because he's the backup catcher (unless you think that it's realistic for a manager to send in his backup catcher as a pinch hitter in the third inning). And if the two-way player is a better pitcher than hitter (we don't know - yet more context that we don't have), then you really only have five players available to pinch hit. No manager knows how many of those guys he'll need for the late innings or defensive subs or whatever, so some managers are conservative about using pinch hitters early.

Also, you keep emphasizing that the bullpen was fully rested, but this is game 1 of the WS, which means there's a game tomorrow. So the manager not only has to be aware of how rested his relievers are today, but also how rested they'll be for tomorrow's game. The Giants used four relievers in this game, so that's half of the bullpen, and it was a blow-out. I sure hope the Giants' starter in game 2 was a lot better than Anderson was in game 1, and I'm sure the Giants manager was hoping the same thing.

In addition, you point out that the AI had Burzell bat in the third inning "so he could come out in the top of the 4th to pitch to one batter before being removed." Again, what's the context here? Is Burzell the fifth starter who is in the bullpen for the post-season for just this sort of situation? If so, I'd let him in as long as possible too. And why was he lifted in the fourth? You seem to think that the AI knew beforehand that Burzell would only register one out in the fourth inning, but what human manager can know that? Did he allow a base runner? Did he reach his pitch limit? Was he injured? Was he ejected? Just more context that's missing.

I like puzzles too. The puzzle here is why you think you provided enough information in the initial post but then keep providing more information as the thread goes along. If there was enough information in the initial post, there wouldn't be any need to give us more information later. Truly, it's a puzzle.

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