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Originally Posted by Furious
Using your argument one could state that “we really have no idea” if one pitcher is better than another, since so many pitching statistics are heavily dependent on team defense.
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Not SO, BB, HBP, HR. Defense independent pitching is one of the foundational concepts of modern baseball analysis.
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Originally Posted by Furious
The fact that fielding statistics are more difficult to measure and less exact than hitting statistics doesnÂ’t mean you can just throw them out and say they mean nothing.
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I never said that fielding statistics should be thrown out. I was talking about one specific defensive statistic: DP for second basemen.
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We don't know, in real life, who is good at turning double plays. We don't know, in real life, the difference between the best and the worst at this particular skill in terms of DP turned or run value or any other metric you care to choose. So there is no basis to say that OOTP is getting it wrong (or right, for that matter). In that case, I think it's fine to err on the side of caution, as it were, and decide that the difference between the best and the worst is insignificant.
Your mileage may vary. But I would pose the following questions: What should the difference between the best and the worst DP turners be, and how did you arrive at that figure?