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Old 03-20-2022, 11:58 AM   #2452
OrangeP47
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Originally Posted by StLee View Post
First of all, I have been incredibly busy of late and have another paper due, major assignments from my students due, and graduation applications to process. Still, I want to work in at least previewing the Association Championships today!

You know, I think you have a good point about them only seeming stuck in time. Other than a few recent additions of pre-War characters--most notably, people like the Cabots who still seem to be stuck but perhaps for much different reasons--what we see of the Fallout universe is the POV of people who never lived much in the pre-War of what the world was like. Of course, the main character of Fallout 4 (in my case, Nate Howard) would know, but he is a blank slate on the day of the bombing to us, so we can only imagine his full background beyond being a war veteran. Just like fashion trends come and go, maybe 2077 was a decade-plus of 1950s nostalgia. That means, it is the post-War civilization that is stuck because they have little to base their comparisons upon. There are some definitive signs that the pre-War era was way behind in some forms of fashion, though, like baseball uniforms that appear to be similar to the Mickey Mantle Yankees (see below).

In the case that civilization has found itself stuck in pre-War nostalgia, my recreation of the Fallout world is battling through some of those problems with rebuilding civilization while also looking to move past the lack of tools necessary to maintain an advanced civilization. Anyway, I am playing the world that I have created shaped and contained somewhat by Fallout lore other than the probable canon of Fallout 4 that the Institute must be wiped out as the "good" Fallout path, just like Caesar must be wiped out as the "good" path in Fallout: New Vegas.

Below: Baseball poster from 2077, actress Vera Keyes looking like a 1920s flapper, a pre-War baseball glove
Yeah, and there were other things I was thinking of namely the fact that we know Nora was a lawyer (or was before taking a break to have Shaun) and in Far Harbor I'm pretty sure a terminal references the fact that the governor of Maine is a woman. Even though it's glossed over I think there's still a strong case to be made that equality in 2077 was closer to present day than it was to the 1950s.

Ironically, I always liked the Institute better than the BoS and sided with them. In that I appreciate your timeline of all the factions co-existing. I never really saw the Institute as "evil" per se, mostly just misguided. They're basically science without morals, due to lack of leadership. Even though there's some weird-family dynamic between the player and Shaun (and I mean, of course it'd be weird, he's your son and now he's older than you and dying of old age), but tbh I've interpreted his "plan" as basically "solving" the Institute's amoralness by putting the player in charge. An outsider like Nate or Nora at the helm is just what they need to temper their excess, maybe Nora in particularly depending on what type of lawyer she was (though I know many would probably not share my pro-lawyer bias ). But anywho, that's my standard "defend the Institute as not horrible" speech. TBH you're probably not one who needs to hear it
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