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thehef · 04-20-2022, 01:46 AM

Based upon what you wrote, the franchise ID would've been Omaha7 from 1969 thru where you are now (1983). So the "connection" should be there. Hard to say, and unless you made a backup, there's no way to verify (that I know of) what the franchise ID was from 1969-1982.

From what you wrote, I can't see the other changes you made being the cause of your issue. But again, it's hard to say.

One thing, though: Since you are playing with historical minors enabled, then at the start of each offseason the game is going to overwrite any minor league structure changes you made and will - for teams names & affiliations - read the actual historical structure from the milbteams.csv file. This doesn't speak directly to the issue you reported, but it is something to be aware of...

The only way to make the changes you indicated and not have the game overwrite them each offseason would be to make those changes within the milbteams.csv file. However, first-year minor leaguers import as rookies based upon team name. Therefore, if your 1983 game has the Geneva Royals instead of the Geneva Cubs, players who were on the Geneva Cubs in real life will have no team-name-match, and therefore will either a) import as free agents, or b) not import at all. Whether the answer is a) or b) I am not sure. It should be a) but there is a related bug which may mean the answer for the moment is b)... Now, perhaps less problematic would be changing the affiliations in the milbteams.csv file. If you were to association the Geneva Cubs with the Royals organization but leave the nickname as Cubs, rookie players should import fine. The only thing would be that those rookies - who debuted as part of the Cubs organization - would instead be part of the Royals organization (because you have associated Geneva with KC).

Hopefully this all makes sense. If not, ask away.

Oh, and getting back to your original issue, I'm assuming this is an isolated one. IOW, you've checked other long-term, stable minor-league franchises - such as the Denver Bears or Oklahoma City 89ers - and they show continuous history, with no break from 1982 to 1983. Correct?

04-20-2022, 01:46 AM	#5
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Based upon what you wrote, the franchise ID would've been Omaha7 from 1969 thru where you are now (1983). So the "connection" should be there. Hard to say, and unless you made a backup, there's no way to verify (that I know of) what the franchise ID was from 1969-1982. From what you wrote, I can't see the other changes you made being the cause of your issue. But again, it's hard to say. One thing, though: Since you are playing with historical minors enabled, then at the start of each offseason the game is going to overwrite any minor league structure changes you made and will - for teams names & affiliations - read the actual historical structure from the milbteams.csv file. This doesn't speak directly to the issue you reported, but it is something to be aware of... The only way to make the changes you indicated and not have the game overwrite them each offseason would be to make those changes within the milbteams.csv file. However, first-year minor leaguers import as rookies based upon team name. Therefore, if your 1983 game has the Geneva Royals instead of the Geneva Cubs, players who were on the Geneva Cubs in real life will have no team-name-match, and therefore will either a) import as free agents, or b) not import at all. Whether the answer is a) or b) I am not sure. It should be a) but there is a related bug which may mean the answer for the moment is b)... Now, perhaps less problematic would be changing the affiliations in the milbteams.csv file. If you were to association the Geneva Cubs with the Royals organization but leave the nickname as Cubs, rookie players should import fine. The only thing would be that those rookies - who debuted as part of the Cubs organization - would instead be part of the Royals organization (because you have associated Geneva with KC). Hopefully this all makes sense. If not, ask away. Oh, and getting back to your original issue, I'm assuming this is an isolated one. IOW, you've checked other long-term, stable minor-league franchises - such as the Denver Bears or Oklahoma City 89ers - and they show continuous history, with no break from 1982 to 1983. Correct?