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kcstengelsr · 04-27-2022, 04:23 PM

Re: eriqiaffe's statement:

"This is a limitation of the 3d model the game uses, the only pants style that looks even close to accurate are modern pants worn all the way down to the shoes. Anything else makes the players look like they all have elephantiasis."

With my previous model the ladies did appear to be wearing shorts and so my length of the pants proper to just below the knee might work for the shorts of the Chicago White Sox circa late 1970s, but the pants proper would have to be a bit longer for example 1950s uniforms. The ladies did have thick calves like they overdid it at the gym regarding the skin tone section of my model, but it looked like the worst of the bulky/clumsy was with the lower part of the leg.

That got me thinking. What if I made the lower stocking with stirrups on the sides and with white sanitary socks showing in the lower fronts and backs? The theory would be that the white sanitary socks might blend in a bit with the white shoes and perhaps a bit of bulkiness could be excused that the players had baggy, saggy white sanitary socks. One really needs to try manual games to see how the pants models play out.

Here is a link to what I came up with for stirrup/white sanitary socks with the rest of my home pants model for the Kenosha Comets:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2800474608

I didn't know how this would work unless I used this (and pants made for Rockford) while playing a manual game. I posted this new result of women's pants with stirrups and sanitary socks and posted it on Youtube. See for yourself. I think the stirrups and sanitary socks help to some degree in lessening the overall bulky and clunky look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6m2...el=kcstengelsr

Pay particular attention for the lower part of the legs of the batters with my initial home plate umpire cam. If I wanted to improve the stirrups and sanitary socks a bit more I think that more Kenosha sanitary sock should show especially at the back of the leg (the front part of the leg is not in need of too much attention) and the Kenosha outside stirrup widths are too wide (the inside stirrup is maybe just a tiny bit too thin). I think that my Rockford stirrups are too wide both inside and outside while needing to show more sanitary sock at the back of the leg (the Kenosha and the Rockford stirrups are a bit different as I kind of free-handed them in a short period of time).

I do think that stirrups and white sanitary socks are the way to go for older style uniforms. One will probably require trial and error to get the widths of the stirrups and the area of the white sanitary socks to one's satisfaction. I do think that if the stirrups and white sanitary sock area is determined to satisfaction that one could then go kind of wild with lower stocking colors by even adding things like stripes.

Funny thing about my video:
I purposely set up before the game Kenosha to wear Rockford caps and Rockford to wear Kenosha caps in order to get around my home and visitors switching caps after my import of AAGPBL from OOTP22. It worked and so Kenosha wore their proper green caps which were assigned to Rockford and Rockford wore their proper red caps which were assigned to Kenosha. At least it worked until the very end of the game when Kenosha with green caps changed to red caps for the victory celebration. Ha.

Added after reflection:
I am still tinkering with some usable template for stirrups/socks. For one thing the bottom part of the stirrups should be white to blend with the shoes as the model's long pants go below the shoes. Having the bottom part white should simulate shoe and not the stirrups going below the top of the shoe. Also, I am tinkering with correct size and placement of the stirrups, so neither of the two examples I used above are where my template idea is right now.
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04-27-2022, 04:23 PM	#40
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	Re: eriqiaffe's statement: "This is a limitation of the 3d model the game uses, the only pants style that looks even close to accurate are modern pants worn all the way down to the shoes. Anything else makes the players look like they all have elephantiasis." With my previous model the ladies did appear to be wearing shorts and so my length of the pants proper to just below the knee might work for the shorts of the Chicago White Sox circa late 1970s, but the pants proper would have to be a bit longer for example 1950s uniforms. The ladies did have thick calves like they overdid it at the gym regarding the skin tone section of my model, but it looked like the worst of the bulky/clumsy was with the lower part of the leg. That got me thinking. What if I made the lower stocking with stirrups on the sides and with white sanitary socks showing in the lower fronts and backs? The theory would be that the white sanitary socks might blend in a bit with the white shoes and perhaps a bit of bulkiness could be excused that the players had baggy, saggy white sanitary socks. One really needs to try manual games to see how the pants models play out. Here is a link to what I came up with for stirrup/white sanitary socks with the rest of my home pants model for the Kenosha Comets: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2800474608 I didn't know how this would work unless I used this (and pants made for Rockford) while playing a manual game. I posted this new result of women's pants with stirrups and sanitary socks and posted it on Youtube. See for yourself. I think the stirrups and sanitary socks help to some degree in lessening the overall bulky and clunky look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6m2...el=kcstengelsr Pay particular attention for the lower part of the legs of the batters with my initial home plate umpire cam. If I wanted to improve the stirrups and sanitary socks a bit more I think that more Kenosha sanitary sock should show especially at the back of the leg (the front part of the leg is not in need of too much attention) and the Kenosha outside stirrup widths are too wide (the inside stirrup is maybe just a tiny bit too thin). I think that my Rockford stirrups are too wide both inside and outside while needing to show more sanitary sock at the back of the leg (the Kenosha and the Rockford stirrups are a bit different as I kind of free-handed them in a short period of time). I do think that stirrups and white sanitary socks are the way to go for older style uniforms. One will probably require trial and error to get the widths of the stirrups and the area of the white sanitary socks to one's satisfaction. I do think that if the stirrups and white sanitary sock area is determined to satisfaction that one could then go kind of wild with lower stocking colors by even adding things like stripes. Funny thing about my video: I purposely set up before the game Kenosha to wear Rockford caps and Rockford to wear Kenosha caps in order to get around my home and visitors switching caps after my import of AAGPBL from OOTP22. It worked and so Kenosha wore their proper green caps which were assigned to Rockford and Rockford wore their proper red caps which were assigned to Kenosha. At least it worked until the very end of the game when Kenosha with green caps changed to red caps for the victory celebration. Ha. Added after reflection: I am still tinkering with some usable template for stirrups/socks. For one thing the bottom part of the stirrups should be white to blend with the shoes as the model's long pants go below the shoes. Having the bottom part white should simulate shoe and not the stirrups going below the top of the shoe. Also, I am tinkering with correct size and placement of the stirrups, so neither of the two examples I used above are where my template idea is right now. __________________ Last edited by kcstengelsr; 04-28-2022 at 11:51 AM.