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ojoe · 11-04-2022, 07:34 PM

And now back to the deadball era and 1907.

In real life, the Cubs were in the middle of a stretch of pretty crazy dominance. They won 116 in 1906 and then followed it up with 107 wins in 1907. But whereas they were stunned by their crosstown rival White Sox in the '06 World Series, they swept Detroit for the 1907 championship.

...I was going to post images of the teams at this point, but I'm having a technical issue so I'll just get into it.

American League Seeds
1. Detroit Tigers
2. Philadelphia Athletics
3. Chicago White Sox
4. Cleveland Naps
5. New York Highlanders
6. St. Louis Browns

National League Seeds
1. Chicago Cubs
2. Pittsburgh Pirates
3. Philadelphia Phillies
4. New York Giants
5. Brooklyn Superbas
6. Cincinnati Reds

Fun Questions

How will this burgeoning Cubs dynasty do?
Did I get the seeds right this time? (Answer: Yes.)
Can the Pirates make it 3-for-3, which would put them at 60 percent of their real World Series total after just three simulations?
Are the St. Louis Browns ever going to win one of these?
Am I going to come up with a consistent format for this or is it going to change from year to year?

Wild Card Round

ALWC 1: #6 St. Louis at #3 Chicago
Simulation Module Predicts...Browns in 2?
Actual Results:
Game 1: White Sox 5, Browns 1
Game 2: White Sox 3, Browns 2
MVP: Ed Walsh, Chicago - allowed just one unearned run on 2 hits in a Game 1 win. (I was about to say it was a complete game...but don't we all know that? It'll probably be easier if I note when a guy didn't go the distance for these deadball years.)

ALWC 2: #5 New York at #4 Cleveland
Prediction: Naps in 2
Actual Results:
Game 1: New York 4, Cleveland 1
Game 2: Cleveland 3, New York 2
Game 3: Cleveland 8, New York 4
MVP: Nap Lajoie, Cleveland (5/11, 1 HR, .455/.500/.909)
The Naps were 1 out from elimination, trailing 2-1 in the bottom of the 9th of Game 2. Harry Bay had walked with 1 out and then tagged up to second on Bill Bradley's fly out to deep right and then moved to third on a wild pitch. Then consecutive singles by Rabbit Nill, Addie Joss, and Terry Turner tied and then won the game for Cleveland. They then knocked around Slow Joe Doyle for 7 runs (6 earned) in 4.2 innings in Game 3 to advance to the ALDS.

NLWC 1: #6 Cincinnati at #3 Philadelphia
Prediction: Reds in 3? What is it with the simulation module picking 6 seeds?
Actual results:
Game 1: Philadelphia 3, Cincinnati 2
Game 2: Philadelphia 3, Cincinnati 2
MVP: George McQuillan, Philadelphia - I suppose because he allowed no earned runs in his Game 1 win, while Tully Sparks gave up 2 earned while winning Game 2...and because nobody on the Phillies scored more than 2 or drove in more than 1. And again, we had a 2-run, 2-out rally in the bottom of the 9th set up by a 1-out walk. Fred Jacklitsch drew the walk, but did not tag up on the subsequent fly out. But he did score on Fred Osborn's double, and then after a walk and a single to load the bases, Osborn came home on a base hit by Sherry Magee. So I scoffed at the pick, but the Reds played it tight.

NLWC 2: #5 Brooklyn at #4 New York
Prediction: Giants in 2
Caveat: Hey, didn't you make a reference to being a Giants fan, and so should we be suspicious any time these two franchises play throughout this simulation?
Answer: Yes, I did say that. And I referenced a "common enemy" shared by Giants and Padres fans. I was not referring to the Phillies. But no, you should not be suspicious. I just hit "simulate" and let the results lie where they may.
Follow up: OK, so this is gonna be on the level?
Retort: Yes...but, OK. This one is gonna look bad. It's important to remember that the Giants did win 17 more games than the Superbas this season. And I also know something about the 1913 sim that nobody else knows yet.
Just one more: So you're saying that every time the Giants and Dodgers play, you're just going to sim it out and there will never be any funny business?
Conclusion:

(stares into space)

.....Yeah. ....Sure. .....You could say that. (mumbles: I'm not gonna, but you could. It's my game and my fantasy and geez don't judge me, OK?)

Results:
Game 1: New York 11, Brooklyn 0
Game 2: New York 1, Brooklyn 0
What I know about the 1913 Sim: Spoiler alert - a much worse Dodgers team beats a much better Giants one.
MVP: Red Ames, New York - and it should have been at least shared with Christy Mathewson. Both pitched shutouts. Ames allowed 3 hits with 8 Ks, Mathewson 2 hits with 5 Ks.

Division Series

ALDS 1: #4 Cleveland at #2 Philadelphia
Prediction: A's in 4
Actual Results:
Game 1: Philadelphia 5, Cleveland 1
Game 2: Philadelphia 3, Cleveland 1
Game 3: Philadelphia 3, Cleveland 2
MVP: Sam Nicholls, Philadelphia (6/10, 1 HR, .600/.636/.900)

ALDS 2: #3 Chicago at #1 Detroit
Prediction: White Sox in 3 - the sim module really loves underdogs
Actual Results:
Game 1: Chicago 2, Detroit 0
Game 2: Detroit 7, Chicago 3
Game 3: Chicago 5, Detroit 2
Game 4: Detroit 3, Chicago 2
Game 5: Detroit 2, Chicago 0
MVP: George Mullin, Detroit (2-0, 1.50 ERA, 18 IP - Bill Donovan had a 0.95 ERA in 19 innings, but he also lost a game)
Notable stat: Ty Cobb went 3/20
And also: Again, this should have been White Sox/A's and Naps/ Tigers. The NL seedings will be similarly wrong. This will be corrected after a few more Series.

NLDS 1: #4 New York at #2 Pittsburgh
Prediction: Giants in 3
Actual Results:
Game 1: New York 6, Pittsburgh 4
Game 2: Pittsburgh 5, New York 1
Game 3: Pittsburgh 5, New York 1
Game 4: New York 4, Pittsburgh 2
Game 5: New York 7, Pittsburgh 6
MVP: Art Devlin, New York (6/15, .400/.550/.600)

NLDS 2: #3 Philadelphia vs. #1 Chicago
Prediction: Cubs in 4...because, of course - they won 107 games
Actual Results (and maybe you can see where this is going):
Game 1: Philadelphia 4, Chicago 0
Game 2: Philadelphia 8, Chicago 1
Game 3: Chicago 7, Philadelphia 6
Game 4: Chicago 4, Philadelphia 3
Game 5: Philadelphia 4, Chicago 3
And that's a 2019 World Series Special - the road team goes undefeated
MVP: Kitty Bransfield (who won two series MVPs for 1901 Pittsburgh - 10/20, .500/.524/.700)
The Cubs rallied from 3-1 down in the 7th to take Game 4, and then found themselves down 4-1 in the 9th of Game 5:

Jimmy Sheckard, hit by pitch
Frank Schulte - single, Shekard to 2nd
Jimmy Slagle - single, bases loaded
Del Howard - fly out to RF, no advancement
Pat Moran - single, Sheckard scores, bases remain loaded, 4-2 PHI
Johnny Evers - Walk, Schulte scores, 4-3 PHI...bases loaded, 1 out for...
Solly Hoffman - 6-2-3 double play. 107 wins, down the [insert obscene metaphor of your choice...as a Giants fan, I can think of a few choice words for a 107-win season ending in a 1st round exit]

League Championship Series

ALCS: Philadelphia Athletics vs. Detroit Tigers
Prediction: Tigers in 5
Actual Results:
Game 1: Philadelphia 5, Detroit 4
Game 2: Detroit 4, Philadelphia 0
Game 3: Philadelphia 11, Detroit 7
Game 4: Detroit 6, Philadelphia 4
Game 5: Philadelphia 5, Detroit 4 (12 innings)
Game 6: Philadelphia 3, Detroit 0
MVP: Eddie Plank, Philadelphia (2-0, 2.81 ERA in 16 innings - I'm assuming on the strength of the 3-hit shutout in game 6 - he did win Game 3, but gave up 6 runs (5 earned) in 7 innings)

NLCS: New York Giants vs. Philadelphia Phillies
Prediction: Phillies in 7
Actual Results:
Game 1: Philadelphia 2, New York 1
Game 2: New York 3, Philadelphia 2
Game 3: New York 3, Philadelphia 1
Game 4: Philadelphia 3, New York 2
Game 5: Philadelphia 6, New York 5
Game 6: Philadelphia 3, New York 2 (10 innings)
MVP: Mickey Doolan, Philadelphia (8/19, .421/.450/.789) - George McQuillan also pitched to a 1.12 ERA in 16 innings
Fun fact: Harry Coveleski went 2-0, pitching only 5 innings - he allowed 1 hit and no runs.
Pretty crazy series with five 1-run games and one 2-run game. The Giants trailed 1-0 going into the 9th of Game 2 before scoring 3 and then holding on to win 3-2. Philly trailed 2-0 before 1 in the 8th and 2 in the 9th of Game 4, tying the series. Then the next night they trailed 5-2 before 3 in the 8th and 1 in the 9th to take a 3-2 lead back to Philadelphia. The only walk-off was in Game 6, when Ernie Courtney singled home Sherry Magee with 1 out in the 10th.
I said earlier that the "common enemy" of the Padres and Giants was NOT the Phillies. ...After further consideration...nah, this doesn't change that. Good luck, Phillies. Beat Brook-lyn! (Since L.A. doesn't have a team in 1913.)

WORLD SERIES

Philadelphia Athletics vs. Philadelphia Phillies

Prediction for this Philly Special: Phillies in 6
Actual Results:
Game 1: A's 5, Phillies 4
Game 2: Phillies 7, A's 3
Game 3: A's 1, Phillies 0
Game 4: A's 4, Phillies 0 (12 innings)
Game 5: Phillies 7, A's 2
Game 6: A's 8, Phillies 5 (the game was 0-0 after 5)
MVP: Ossie Schreckengost, Philadelphia A's (12/26, .462/.462/.538) - but maybe Rube Waddell (22 innings, 13 hits, 1.23 ERA, 2-0 with a save in Game 7) deserves a share.

How did the bye teams do? 1-3 in the Division Series; 5-7 through three seasons...no bye teams made the World Series, so of 6 possible World Series berths so far, bye teams have 3, wild card teams have 3.
League Champs? Neither matched their real-life accomplishment, so the real League champs are 2-4 (1-2 in each league) in terms of winning the pretend pennant
World Series Champs? Nope. The real champs are 0-2 as far as winning my fake World Series.
Most Hits: 24 - Kitty Bransfield, Philadelphia Phillies
Runs: 13 - Sherry Magee, Philadelphia Phillies
Home Runs: 2 - Jack Coombs, Philadelphia Athletics
RBI: 14 - Magee
AVG: .404 - Davy Jones, Detroit (51 PAs)
OBP: .451 - Jones
SLG: .562 - Coombs (57 PAs)
OPS: .962 - Jones
SB: 4 - 4 players, the most famous of which is Ty Cobb
W/L Record: 5-0 - Eddie Plank, Philadelphia Athletics
ERA: 1.00 - Ed Walsh, Chicago White Sox (27 IP)
WHIP: 0.52 - Walsh (geez, how did he lose a game?)
K: 32 - Rube Waddell, Philadelphia A's (48 IP)
SV: 1 - Waddell and Mordecai Brown, Chicago Cubs...not surprising as saves aren't really a thing in 1907

Sorry no pictures. Postimages is having some internal system error thingy going on.

Next up: 1976 - can the Big Red Machine be the first real-life champion to win the...What am I calling this? Do I need a name?

11-04-2022, 07:34 PM	#16
ojoe Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 101	1907 And now back to the deadball era and 1907. In real life, the Cubs were in the middle of a stretch of pretty crazy dominance. They won 116 in 1906 and then followed it up with 107 wins in 1907. But whereas they were stunned by their crosstown rival White Sox in the '06 World Series, they swept Detroit for the 1907 championship. ...I was going to post images of the teams at this point, but I'm having a technical issue so I'll just get into it. American League Seeds 1. Detroit Tigers 2. Philadelphia Athletics 3. Chicago White Sox 4. Cleveland Naps 5. New York Highlanders 6. St. Louis Browns National League Seeds 1. Chicago Cubs 2. Pittsburgh Pirates 3. Philadelphia Phillies 4. New York Giants 5. Brooklyn Superbas 6. Cincinnati Reds Fun Questions How will this burgeoning Cubs dynasty do? Did I get the seeds right this time? (Answer: Yes.) Can the Pirates make it 3-for-3, which would put them at 60 percent of their real World Series total after just three simulations? Are the St. Louis Browns ever going to win one of these? Am I going to come up with a consistent format for this or is it going to change from year to year? Wild Card Round ALWC 1: #6 St. Louis at #3 Chicago Simulation Module Predicts...Browns in 2? Actual Results: Game 1: White Sox 5, Browns 1 Game 2: White Sox 3, Browns 2 MVP: Ed Walsh, Chicago - allowed just one unearned run on 2 hits in a Game 1 win. (I was about to say it was a complete game...but don't we all know that? It'll probably be easier if I note when a guy didn't go the distance for these deadball years.) ALWC 2: #5 New York at #4 Cleveland Prediction: Naps in 2 Actual Results: Game 1: New York 4, Cleveland 1 Game 2: Cleveland 3, New York 2 Game 3: Cleveland 8, New York 4 MVP: Nap Lajoie, Cleveland (5/11, 1 HR, .455/.500/.909) The Naps were 1 out from elimination, trailing 2-1 in the bottom of the 9th of Game 2. Harry Bay had walked with 1 out and then tagged up to second on Bill Bradley's fly out to deep right and then moved to third on a wild pitch. Then consecutive singles by Rabbit Nill, Addie Joss, and Terry Turner tied and then won the game for Cleveland. They then knocked around Slow Joe Doyle for 7 runs (6 earned) in 4.2 innings in Game 3 to advance to the ALDS. NLWC 1: #6 Cincinnati at #3 Philadelphia Prediction: Reds in 3? What is it with the simulation module picking 6 seeds? Actual results: Game 1: Philadelphia 3, Cincinnati 2 Game 2: Philadelphia 3, Cincinnati 2 MVP: George McQuillan, Philadelphia - I suppose because he allowed no earned runs in his Game 1 win, while Tully Sparks gave up 2 earned while winning Game 2...and because nobody on the Phillies scored more than 2 or drove in more than 1. And again, we had a 2-run, 2-out rally in the bottom of the 9th set up by a 1-out walk. Fred Jacklitsch drew the walk, but did not tag up on the subsequent fly out. But he did score on Fred Osborn's double, and then after a walk and a single to load the bases, Osborn came home on a base hit by Sherry Magee. So I scoffed at the pick, but the Reds played it tight. NLWC 2: #5 Brooklyn at #4 New York Prediction: Giants in 2 Caveat: Hey, didn't you make a reference to being a Giants fan, and so should we be suspicious any time these two franchises play throughout this simulation? Answer: Yes, I did say that. And I referenced a "common enemy" shared by Giants and Padres fans. I was not referring to the Phillies. But no, you should not be suspicious. I just hit "simulate" and let the results lie where they may. Follow up: OK, so this is gonna be on the level? Retort: Yes...but, OK. This one is gonna look bad. It's important to remember that the Giants did win 17 more games than the Superbas this season. And I also know something about the 1913 sim that nobody else knows yet. Just one more: So you're saying that every time the Giants and Dodgers play, you're just going to sim it out and there will never be any funny business? Conclusion: (stares into space) .....Yeah. ....Sure. .....You could say that. (mumbles: I'm not gonna, but you could. It's my game and my fantasy and geez don't judge me, OK?) Results: Game 1: New York 11, Brooklyn 0 Game 2: New York 1, Brooklyn 0 What I know about the 1913 Sim: Spoiler alert - a much worse Dodgers team beats a much better Giants one. MVP: Red Ames, New York - and it should have been at least shared with Christy Mathewson. Both pitched shutouts. Ames allowed 3 hits with 8 Ks, Mathewson 2 hits with 5 Ks. Division Series ALDS 1: #4 Cleveland at #2 Philadelphia Prediction: A's in 4 Actual Results: Game 1: Philadelphia 5, Cleveland 1 Game 2: Philadelphia 3, Cleveland 1 Game 3: Philadelphia 3, Cleveland 2 MVP: Sam Nicholls, Philadelphia (6/10, 1 HR, .600/.636/.900) ALDS 2: #3 Chicago at #1 Detroit Prediction: White Sox in 3 - the sim module really loves underdogs Actual Results: Game 1: Chicago 2, Detroit 0 Game 2: Detroit 7, Chicago 3 Game 3: Chicago 5, Detroit 2 Game 4: Detroit 3, Chicago 2 Game 5: Detroit 2, Chicago 0 MVP: George Mullin, Detroit (2-0, 1.50 ERA, 18 IP - Bill Donovan had a 0.95 ERA in 19 innings, but he also lost a game) Notable stat: Ty Cobb went 3/20 And also: Again, this should have been White Sox/A's and Naps/ Tigers. The NL seedings will be similarly wrong. This will be corrected after a few more Series. NLDS 1: #4 New York at #2 Pittsburgh Prediction: Giants in 3 Actual Results: Game 1: New York 6, Pittsburgh 4 Game 2: Pittsburgh 5, New York 1 Game 3: Pittsburgh 5, New York 1 Game 4: New York 4, Pittsburgh 2 Game 5: New York 7, Pittsburgh 6 MVP: Art Devlin, New York (6/15, .400/.550/.600) NLDS 2: #3 Philadelphia vs. #1 Chicago Prediction: Cubs in 4...because, of course - they won 107 games Actual Results (and maybe you can see where this is going): Game 1: Philadelphia 4, Chicago 0 Game 2: Philadelphia 8, Chicago 1 Game 3: Chicago 7, Philadelphia 6 Game 4: Chicago 4, Philadelphia 3 Game 5: Philadelphia 4, Chicago 3 And that's a 2019 World Series Special - the road team goes undefeated MVP: Kitty Bransfield (who won two series MVPs for 1901 Pittsburgh - 10/20, .500/.524/.700) The Cubs rallied from 3-1 down in the 7th to take Game 4, and then found themselves down 4-1 in the 9th of Game 5: Jimmy Sheckard, hit by pitch Frank Schulte - single, Shekard to 2nd Jimmy Slagle - single, bases loaded Del Howard - fly out to RF, no advancement Pat Moran - single, Sheckard scores, bases remain loaded, 4-2 PHI Johnny Evers - Walk, Schulte scores, 4-3 PHI...bases loaded, 1 out for... Solly Hoffman - 6-2-3 double play. 107 wins, down the [insert obscene metaphor of your choice...as a Giants fan, I can think of a few choice words for a 107-win season ending in a 1st round exit] League Championship Series ALCS: Philadelphia Athletics vs. Detroit Tigers Prediction: Tigers in 5 Actual Results: Game 1: Philadelphia 5, Detroit 4 Game 2: Detroit 4, Philadelphia 0 Game 3: Philadelphia 11, Detroit 7 Game 4: Detroit 6, Philadelphia 4 Game 5: Philadelphia 5, Detroit 4 (12 innings) Game 6: Philadelphia 3, Detroit 0 MVP: Eddie Plank, Philadelphia (2-0, 2.81 ERA in 16 innings - I'm assuming on the strength of the 3-hit shutout in game 6 - he did win Game 3, but gave up 6 runs (5 earned) in 7 innings) NLCS: New York Giants vs. Philadelphia Phillies Prediction: Phillies in 7 Actual Results: Game 1: Philadelphia 2, New York 1 Game 2: New York 3, Philadelphia 2 Game 3: New York 3, Philadelphia 1 Game 4: Philadelphia 3, New York 2 Game 5: Philadelphia 6, New York 5 Game 6: Philadelphia 3, New York 2 (10 innings) MVP: Mickey Doolan, Philadelphia (8/19, .421/.450/.789) - George McQuillan also pitched to a 1.12 ERA in 16 innings Fun fact: Harry Coveleski went 2-0, pitching only 5 innings - he allowed 1 hit and no runs. Pretty crazy series with five 1-run games and one 2-run game. The Giants trailed 1-0 going into the 9th of Game 2 before scoring 3 and then holding on to win 3-2. Philly trailed 2-0 before 1 in the 8th and 2 in the 9th of Game 4, tying the series. Then the next night they trailed 5-2 before 3 in the 8th and 1 in the 9th to take a 3-2 lead back to Philadelphia. The only walk-off was in Game 6, when Ernie Courtney singled home Sherry Magee with 1 out in the 10th. I said earlier that the "common enemy" of the Padres and Giants was NOT the Phillies. ...After further consideration...nah, this doesn't change that. Good luck, Phillies. Beat Brook-lyn! (Since L.A. doesn't have a team in 1913.) WORLD SERIES Philadelphia Athletics vs. Philadelphia Phillies Prediction for this Philly Special: Phillies in 6 Actual Results: Game 1: A's 5, Phillies 4 Game 2: Phillies 7, A's 3 Game 3: A's 1, Phillies 0 Game 4: A's 4, Phillies 0 (12 innings) Game 5: Phillies 7, A's 2 Game 6: A's 8, Phillies 5 (the game was 0-0 after 5) MVP: Ossie Schreckengost, Philadelphia A's (12/26, .462/.462/.538) - but maybe Rube Waddell (22 innings, 13 hits, 1.23 ERA, 2-0 with a save in Game 7) deserves a share. How did the bye teams do? 1-3 in the Division Series; 5-7 through three seasons...no bye teams made the World Series, so of 6 possible World Series berths so far, bye teams have 3, wild card teams have 3. League Champs? Neither matched their real-life accomplishment, so the real League champs are 2-4 (1-2 in each league) in terms of winning the pretend pennant World Series Champs? Nope. The real champs are 0-2 as far as winning my fake World Series. Most Hits: 24 - Kitty Bransfield, Philadelphia Phillies Runs: 13 - Sherry Magee, Philadelphia Phillies Home Runs: 2 - Jack Coombs, Philadelphia Athletics RBI: 14 - Magee AVG: .404 - Davy Jones, Detroit (51 PAs) OBP: .451 - Jones SLG: .562 - Coombs (57 PAs) OPS: .962 - Jones SB: 4 - 4 players, the most famous of which is Ty Cobb W/L Record: 5-0 - Eddie Plank, Philadelphia Athletics ERA: 1.00 - Ed Walsh, Chicago White Sox (27 IP) WHIP: 0.52 - Walsh (geez, how did he lose a game?) K: 32 - Rube Waddell, Philadelphia A's (48 IP) SV: 1 - Waddell and Mordecai Brown, Chicago Cubs...not surprising as saves aren't really a thing in 1907 Sorry no pictures. Postimages is having some internal system error thingy going on. Next up: 1976 - can the Big Red Machine be the first real-life champion to win the...What am I calling this? Do I need a name?