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Old 08-09-2023, 12:56 PM   #8
uruguru
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Originally Posted by Cactusguy21 View Post
This is actually an issue in real life. Stuff+ and BABIP tend to have an inverse correlation, meaning that if you have better stuff, you tend to run a lower BABIP. This is the limitation of FIP-based statistics.

But the run based stats have obvious issues too. That's why I include both WAR on my pages.
What I like about non-FIP stats, at least for starters, is that pitchers are ultimately responsible for all of the runners that score to the same degree that batters are responsible for all of the hits they get.

And we don't think twice about judging batters based on a non-FIP stats.
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