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Old 10-26-2023, 02:26 AM   #9
laving39
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Originally Posted by JeffR View Post
As Casteview said, we've had occasional reports of this but haven't been able to successfully replicate it. It sounds like it's something that's caused by a specific league configuration, so having the save to look at would be helpful in tracking it down.
I have one backup from july 1st, july 2nd, july 3rd, and july 4th. I'll upload them all. That way you can both reproduce the issues and see what things look like after the issues occured.

* The game is still making 17 year olds available as free agents, even though our minimum draft age is set to 19.

* The max players lost quota basically has no effect in the expansion draft. It is set to 3 for this draft, but players does not get unavailable if their team loses 3 players.

* The expansion draft adds an extra round, drafting the same amount of players extra as the original expansion draft. You have to sim to july 3rd to experience this (using a backup from either july 1st or july 2nd). I'm assuming this is because the rights are set to "free" for the available players during the expansion draft, since the Expansion Draft View does not show old team. My guess is that the game don't count players as lost if it does not say "old team" in the bottom half of the Expansion Draft View, and therefor "fills out" the expansion draft afterwards. Picking apart the 14th round suggests this, all teams looses 3 extra players, and all expansion teams picks 13 extra players. A copy of the draft settings.

Castleview mentioned that this could happen when you don't fill the max players lost quota. In this case this seems to be technically true even though we did fill the quota, since the game does not register old team during the draft, but the 14th round does register old team and picks the exact same amount of players as the real draft.

If you can't replicate this, try to pick players manually. I don't know. If it's a league setting issue, it's in these files. Tell me if you need me to remember what settings I used to start the league.

* Try to manually switch back the players from the 14th round to their original teams on july 3rd (probably using the backup from july 2nd) and sim to july 4. For me, they were back with the expansion teams again on july 4th. I guess the lazy version of reproducing this would be to open the backup from july 3rd, notice that players from the 14th round are in the right teams (their old teams), sim to july 4th, and see them in the expansion teams.

* Check out the trades including J. Wall on july 1st between Rostov Travellers and expansion team Mexicali Sombreros, and including J. Dampier on july 3rd between St Johns Icebergs and San Diego Riptide. If you watch these trades on the july 3rd backup, and then simulate to july 4th, these two players will end up back with their old team (but have the rights set to their new team, just like the extra expansion draft players). With the trade on july 1st, you will see the same problem already from july 1st, simming to july 2nd.

Should be mentioned though that I believe these two players where originally available for the expansion draft. If I remember it correctly, I received Rostov Travellers protection list (making J. Wall available for the draft) before I completed that trade.

Notice that J. Wall was traded to an expansion team the day before the expansion draft, but probably after the player were made available to the expansion draft by his old team. There is another similar trade like this one. L. Kirk was traded from Gothenburg Lions to the expansion team Mexicali Sombreros on july 1st, but L. Kirk was never an issue. I think that trade were completed before Gothenburg submitted their protection list.

The trade issues could very well just be the expansion draft, and not the trades itself.

Zip-file including all 4 backups is called Global Hockey League EXP.zip

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