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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough
These seem like promising results thus far. Personally, I'd like to test the solution that I recommended in the bugs forum, where we apply a simple modifier to NeL player stats, to multiply them by the right number, to make them equivalent to the same stats compiled over 154 or 162 games, etc. But I don't think it's possible to mass-edit the OOTP database as easily as we could in past versions.
Maybe I'm wrong about that and someone can steer me in the right direction. But I think your experiment shows that, however we achieve the right modifications to the base stats, it's going to massively improve results. My proposed solution is based on what would be relatively easy to code and still provide a very effective fix. Your method is a slightly more sophisticated approach that relies on third-party's MLEs, but it's still fairly simple. So, hopefully we're going to see some kind of fix in OOTP25.
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I don't see what you're suggesting as a workable solution for a number of reasons. These guys aren't getting caned because of the "make bad" discounts (although I admit there would be some punitive downgrade to their stats if they have very few AB), they are getting caned because of the level assigned to the leagues they played in. Multiplying the number of games out won't do much to help them other than remove that fairly inconsequential discount. Plus, some of these guys did only have a handful of games some seasons so it is imperative that the discounts remain in place for them, so how would you separate the two categories in an equitable manner so that Ballplayer Williams who went 6-for-10 with 2 homers doesn't have that turned into a monster season?
It also comes down to the old adage:
dirty in, dirty out; many of the issues are being caused because the DB is littered with erroneous stats and nothing will be fixed until that issue is addressed as well.
I might be wrong. It would be easy enough for you to test. Just pick a spread of players as candidates from 1900-1950 and start as I have, then make the changes you are suggesting in the editor as they come into the league and after the first recalc.
You'd only need to do a handful of candidates, so not much work involved.
Might be worth your while to do such a test so you can push your argument with more confidence but I think you'll find your logic is awry.
For mine, the only true solution that would possibly work across the NeL board is what I call "season strength modifiers", whereby each season of all the various Negro and Latin leagues are given a rating that adjusts the stats from that season
in toto. Even this has holes I haven't been able to plug and I have given this matter more thought than just about anyone, I'd say.
The quest for the Holy Grail continues.
G