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Originally Posted by BaseballMan
Thats interesting.
To be honest i have never thought of any of the names as derogatory.
I always took the names like Braves and Warriors to be strong and well brave.
I don't even know why a team would name itself after something it did not respect or like.
It would be like the KKK member naming a kid after Martin Luther King.
I guess i could see maybe the Redskins or Chief Wahoo but even then
Redskins never seemed like a joke or something you didn't respect.
Course i grew up in the 70s and 80s so maybe their success had something to do with the respect.
Also i though i read that some Native Americans wanted the name changed back and some didn't like the Indians name changed to Guardians.
Did they even do a vote or was it just the Cleveland owner deciding if the majority was offended?
As for Chief Wahoo yeah its over the top but aren't all mascots?
I never thought it ment Native Americans were dumb any more than i thought Brooklyn Dodger fans were bums.
If Chief Wahoo was real he would be one of the mascots i wouldn't mind hanging out with. Seems rather freindly to me.
I'm not telling any Native American they shouldn't feel offended as that is their right.
Just saying thats not the way i saw Chief Wahoo but i would not argue against them.
I use Indians because that was the team nickname.
When they were the Naps i use Naps and when they change to Guardians i will use Guardians.
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The Washington football team used to be based in Boston and, as was really common at the time, the football team took on the name of or a version of a name of the local baseball team (see, the Chicago Bears for the Cubs, the New York Giants for the baseball Giants, and the Detroit Lions for the Tigers… not the Cardinals, though, that was just a coincidence). The 2 Boston teams at the time were the Red Sox and the Braves. They kept the name after moving to Boston and I believe the Native American they had on their helmet from the early 70s onward was added at the behest of a local First Nations activist.
I currently use the Indians name, logo, and uniforms. There’s been some interesting work done with fauxbacks that I might switch to myself, but like I honestly don’t care what you call your own save, just don’t expect OOTP to break their licensing agreement.