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mookie1 · 09-11-2024, 01:22 PM

In the midst of a long-running historical replay, real lineups, real transactions. Upgraded to v25 between the 1982 and 1983 seasons. I encountered 3 issues that, yeah, might be small sample size, but probably not. I believe these are bugs:

#1) NL pitchers' hitting ratings are skewed too high. ALL teams' pitchers hit more HRs in OOTP than real life, despite the historical sim accuracy for HRs only being up 1.6%.

#2) The MVP vote (which was done in v25 for both 1982 and 1983) is based strictly on WAR. Previously, there appeared to be some team context taken into consideration. In the 1983 OOTP season, for instance, Mike Schmidt won NL MVP based on 9.0 WAR for a 77 win team. Andre Dawson did not win MVP despite a 7.9 WAR (and a 30/30 season on top of that) for a 94 win division champ. This WAR-only awarding is true for all 4 MVPs that have been named in my league while in v25. Also notable that Cy Young winners do NOT seem to be based strictly on WAR and do, in fact, have some sort of additional context applied.

#3) All hitting stats within an acceptable margin of error, but runs scored way high (6.4%). Anecdotally, I think this is related to the tendency in v25 for hitters to frequently take an extra base on the outfield throw, so while 2B/H% was literally at 0.0%, the "singles that are effectively doubles" is skewing the actual number.

Two other items that are more nitpicks than bugs:

#4) Because of my historical settings, I can no longer see the financials screen, which is mostly fine, but I can no longer see the progressive over time win percentage chart. Can this be moved elsewhere?

#5) Last thing, which has been an issue for a while across versions -- once the historical game enters the playoffs, the regular lineup is abandoned (which, I get it to an extent because real lineups are used, but I would think some logic could be applied based on most frequent lineups over the last x weeks, something like that) but more importantly, bullpen usage is different in a non-realistic way. I have seen playoff series where only 1 or 2 relievers are used (and the closer is always starting off the 8th inning). I understand that real playoff usage would be stricter, but it seems like it's overdone in this case.

Please let me know if you need more data. Thank you.

09-11-2024, 01:22 PM	#1
mookie1 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 46	Historical issues - recent 24 to 25 upgrade In the midst of a long-running historical replay, real lineups, real transactions. Upgraded to v25 between the 1982 and 1983 seasons. I encountered 3 issues that, yeah, might be small sample size, but probably not. I believe these are bugs: #1) NL pitchers' hitting ratings are skewed too high. ALL teams' pitchers hit more HRs in OOTP than real life, despite the historical sim accuracy for HRs only being up 1.6%. #2) The MVP vote (which was done in v25 for both 1982 and 1983) is based strictly on WAR. Previously, there appeared to be some team context taken into consideration. In the 1983 OOTP season, for instance, Mike Schmidt won NL MVP based on 9.0 WAR for a 77 win team. Andre Dawson did not win MVP despite a 7.9 WAR (and a 30/30 season on top of that) for a 94 win division champ. This WAR-only awarding is true for all 4 MVPs that have been named in my league while in v25. Also notable that Cy Young winners do NOT seem to be based strictly on WAR and do, in fact, have some sort of additional context applied. #3) All hitting stats within an acceptable margin of error, but runs scored way high (6.4%). Anecdotally, I think this is related to the tendency in v25 for hitters to frequently take an extra base on the outfield throw, so while 2B/H% was literally at 0.0%, the "singles that are effectively doubles" is skewing the actual number. Two other items that are more nitpicks than bugs: #4) Because of my historical settings, I can no longer see the financials screen, which is mostly fine, but I can no longer see the progressive over time win percentage chart. Can this be moved elsewhere? #5) Last thing, which has been an issue for a while across versions -- once the historical game enters the playoffs, the regular lineup is abandoned (which, I get it to an extent because real lineups are used, but I would think some logic could be applied based on most frequent lineups over the last x weeks, something like that) but more importantly, bullpen usage is different in a non-realistic way. I have seen playoff series where only 1 or 2 relievers are used (and the closer is always starting off the 8th inning). I understand that real playoff usage would be stricter, but it seems like it's overdone in this case. Please let me know if you need more data. Thank you.