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Old 01-17-2025, 10:09 PM   #488
tm1681
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Originally Posted by KCRoyals15 View Post
One thing that I never liked with OOTP finances is that they don't take into account business expenses. Costs for facilities (including rent/debt service, facilities, and upkeep), staffing, team travel, equipment, or marketing (among other things) are not included at all.

This definitely is evident with 19th century in the game with salaries being so low and attendance figures being more evened out than real life, making it appear teams are flush with cash (and some certainly were), though the reality is much different for most clubs. Hence why the vast majority of them folded.
Yeah, and I think it's a problem with Financial AI engines in every sports game.

As a reminder, I've been one of the Head Researchers for minor league soccer in the USA on Football Manager since 2007. The problem we used to always run into was that putting in realistic salaries for D2/D3 players based on what we knew led to clubs being flush with cash and outbidding MLS teams for US-based free agents. It's a lot better now because the financial engine can take an educated guess at some expenses, but we still have to be wary of "minor league" teams in the US having way too much money. In FM's case, it probably couldn't figure out how to estimate expenses for teams based in a country where they have to fly and stay in hotels for the majority of their games.

BTW, as I've mentioned multiple times before any feedback on what I'm writing & doing here is welcomed...
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