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Originally Posted by jasg224

The Conspiradores don't have much "lore" to speak of since they are an expansion team from 2024. They do have former MLB OF Leonys Martin as their star player currently though. The only tidbit I can offer is that their nickname comes from Querétaro being a very important city in the early years of the Mexican war for independence. It is the place where key figures like Miguel Hidalgo, Ignacio Allende, Josefa Ortiz and others conspired to revolt against Spanish rule, though originally they wanted more political representation for Mexican-born members of Spanish families rather than independence, but that's a different story. The team itself had a pretty nice season, they came 2nd in the Zona Sur (only behind a stacked Diablos team with Trevor Bauer and Robinson Canó breaking LMB records left and right), and they were swept in the second round by Oaxaca. They were a very offensive team with a core of Leonys Martin, Rusney Castillo, Alen Hanson, Yosmany Guerra and Yurisbel Gracial all hitting with an OPS north of .900.


Yeah, there's a lot of players who've participated in both leagues, just in 2024 there were 88 players who made an MLB debut joining the league. Considering you're only using non-white players: Robinson Canó, Billy Hamilton, Yasiel Puig, Didi Gregorious and Freddy Galvis are some of the top ex-MLB players currently on an LMB roster. The signing of these types of stars is a relatively recent phenomenon. Historically, guys like Cool Papa Bell, Martín Dihigo, Josh Gibson and others found in Mexico the opportunity to play professionally before integration. Also many of the Mexican stars like Fernando Valenzuela, Vicente Romo, Aurelio Rodríguez, Joakim Soria, Bobby Ávila, Vinny Castilla, etc. played in the LMB both before and after their MLB careers. I don't know if they're in your database but you might want to keep an eye out for Héctor Espino and Nelson Barrera. Particularly Espino, as he's considered as the greatest Mexican hitter in history and his number 21 is retired across both leagues. On the pitching side there's no doubt about Valenzuela, though if we're talking only about LMB then guys like Ramón Arano, Jesús Ríos, Francisco Campos and Martín Dihigo hold a lot of the records. If I see any guys I recognize, I'll definitely let you know!

Awesome stuff, thanks so much. I had wondered about the Conspiradores nickname because it sort of has a negative connotation in English to be "conspirators" so it's nice to know they were being so for a good cause!

I am well versed in the NeL - Mexican League connections and how almost all the main NeL guys spent at least some time in Mexico. But the actual league itself is a blind spot for me that I hope to remedy as this save plays out.

I also have a full Americas MLE spreadsheet from the mighty Eric Chalek featuring a number of Mexican players that I am going to investigate further.

Some of the following EG Bobby Avila and Sal Maglie are already in the DB because they played in the NeL or MLB or both. But those that aren't I am going to figure out a way to add versions of using Eric's calculations. I feel it is only fair seeing as I am using their fantastic league to house this exercise.

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