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Old 11-04-2025, 01:22 PM   #262
justtxyank
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Originally Posted by LansdowneSt View Post
I'm aware of the issue Fonzie posted but it's beyond me and needs to be addressed by OOTPD.

For this though, what is the additional issue in-game? I'll check it out if you can let me know more specifically. To see what is in the game go to the Teams.csv in the stats folder and stick a filter on column D. That is the modern franchise ID. Then look to Column C to see what is was in a given year. Keep in mind, the 19th c. is not necessarily historical as the teams don't fold but turn into teams they are unrelated to eventually to make the game smoother to play. I don't think it is any different than it's been in previous years.

Well for example, the St Louis Browns of the 1800s legitimately turn into the Cardinals in real life. On the historical teams file right now they have BAL as their franchise ID, when it should be STL.


I'm also looking through those late 1800s teams and there is a St Louis Browns listed in AL and NL for some of those years and that isn't real. I can't figure out who the AL one might refer to. The St Louis Browns were an AA team (could be AL for the first years, makes sense) but then transition to NL around 1892. From then through 1898 they were in the NL at the St Louis Browns, then in 1899 they convert to St Louis Perfectos and then in 1900 they become the St Louis Cardinals. the Teams file right now has their historical franchise as the Orioles and, as an example, if you do a historical franchise far enough back to see some of those old managers (like Comisky or Chris Von der Ahe) it ties them to wrong franchises. If you look at the team history pages it shows the Orioles being that historical franchise. It's just a little messed up.


I'm not diving in on the oddity of having teams like the Cleveland Spiders being connected to the Indians/Guardians or the other things, there could be database reasons why that makes sense that I don't understand. But the Browns are definitely tied up wrong right now. It's confusing becasue around the late 1800s into early 1900s there were teams moving all over and names changing.
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