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Originally Posted by dsvitak

I'm a stat guy ... and I place WAY more emphasis on stats than feelings when evaluating performance.

Nothing wrong with that. We can all dress our burger how we want.

I feel like our math teachers when dealing w/numbers: Show me your work. How do we get that sum? Why does that total exist? The game that exists now is nothing like the one when Mikan played, which is not like the one when Russell played, which is not like the one when Issel played which is not like the one when Ewing played, which is not like the one when Howard played, which is not like the one Joker plays today.

While Joker is doing things no center has ever done, there has never been NBA era like this where the pivot is seen as passe'. He's a unicorn and not just based on his abilities. So I think taking into account his direct competition is fair.

What would his numbers be like if he played in the center's hey day? I have no doubt he'd still get triple doubles. But would other great centers have 20-20 games vs him? In 2026, he is pretty much like Wilt in 1960. There is no close equal. No matchup problem. No one that can get him in foul trouble. That shows his greatness, but also quantifies it a little bit.