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Rocco Del Sesto · 02-13-2004, 05:30 PM

Heavyweight made an interesting comment that if Zech had beaten Mildenberger and Folley and drew with Terrell as he did in my replay he'd quite possibly be ranked in the top 5.

So then I looked on Heayweights 60's-70's website and it lists the rankings for 1965(I take that to be year ending) as....

Ali - Champion
1. Ernie Terrell
2. Floyd Patterson
3. Georg Chuvalo
4. Karl Mildenberger
5. Zora Folley
6. Amos Lincoln
7. Thad Spencer
8. Doug Jones
9. Hubert Hilton
10. Brian London

Which makes me want to take this Zech replay onto maybe an interesting "what if" turn.....

After Mildenberger had defeated Zech in November of 65, Zech went on to defend for the 1st time since 1963 his German HW Title against the man he took it from, Albert Westphal. They fought in April 1966 with Zech beating Westphal. Zech then 2 months later fought Sonny Liston in Swedon and went on to fight Jurgen Blin three times and Peter Weiland once for the German Title. Zech never fought again for a title higher then the German Crown.

Mildenberger meanwhile after beating Zech went on to win decisions over Eddie Machen who was in the late stages of his career and Yvan Prebeg, a tough Croatian LHW for the European HW Title. After that Mildenberger got his BIG chance in the boxing ring against Ali in September of 1966.

So in my replay, with Zech having defeated Mildenberger, would or could the world heavyweight rankings look something like this....

Ali - Champion
1. Ernie Terrell
2. Floyd Patterson
3. Georg Chuvalo
4. Gehard Zech
5. Zora Folley
6. Amos Lincoln
7. Thad Spencer
8. Doug Jones
9. Hubert Hilton
10. Brian London

For the fun of it, lets say they did

Obviously is he'd defeated Mildenberger he wouldn't have gone on to fight Westphal for the German crown, or at least I would think not. I'd believe he'd be looking for 1 or 2 more fights to set himself up to have that chance in the ring against Ali sometime in latter 1966. What does everyone think??

My intent is still to finish out portions of Zech's career to take on the opponents he's not faced yet that I'll rate the fighters, like von Homburg and Echevarria, but, who should he fight next? You boxing experts out there, what would the world boxing organization back in 1965-66 probably have done to set up a matchup between Ali and the leftehander from Berlin, Germany??!!

02-13-2004, 05:30 PM	#249
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,194	Where to Go with Zech's Replay Heavyweight made an interesting comment that if Zech had beaten Mildenberger and Folley and drew with Terrell as he did in my replay he'd quite possibly be ranked in the top 5. So then I looked on Heayweights 60's-70's website and it lists the rankings for 1965(I take that to be year ending) as.... Ali - Champion 1. Ernie Terrell 2. Floyd Patterson 3. Georg Chuvalo 4. Karl Mildenberger 5. Zora Folley 6. Amos Lincoln 7. Thad Spencer 8. Doug Jones 9. Hubert Hilton 10. Brian London Which makes me want to take this Zech replay onto maybe an interesting "what if" turn..... After Mildenberger had defeated Zech in November of 65, Zech went on to defend for the 1st time since 1963 his German HW Title against the man he took it from, Albert Westphal. They fought in April 1966 with Zech beating Westphal. Zech then 2 months later fought Sonny Liston in Swedon and went on to fight Jurgen Blin three times and Peter Weiland once for the German Title. Zech never fought again for a title higher then the German Crown. Mildenberger meanwhile after beating Zech went on to win decisions over Eddie Machen who was in the late stages of his career and Yvan Prebeg, a tough Croatian LHW for the European HW Title. After that Mildenberger got his BIG chance in the boxing ring against Ali in September of 1966. So in my replay, with Zech having defeated Mildenberger, would or could the world heavyweight rankings look something like this.... Ali - Champion 1. Ernie Terrell 2. Floyd Patterson 3. Georg Chuvalo 4. Gehard Zech 5. Zora Folley 6. Amos Lincoln 7. Thad Spencer 8. Doug Jones 9. Hubert Hilton 10. Brian London For the fun of it, lets say they did Obviously is he'd defeated Mildenberger he wouldn't have gone on to fight Westphal for the German crown, or at least I would think not. I'd believe he'd be looking for 1 or 2 more fights to set himself up to have that chance in the ring against Ali sometime in latter 1966. What does everyone think?? My intent is still to finish out portions of Zech's career to take on the opponents he's not faced yet that I'll rate the fighters, like von Homburg and Echevarria, but, who should he fight next? You boxing experts out there, what would the world boxing organization back in 1965-66 probably have done to set up a matchup between Ali and the leftehander from Berlin, Germany??!!