Negro Leagues (NeL) Mod for 26

[pholmer]

Any word on the progress of the NeL Mod for 26? I have had so much fun playing with 25 NeL Mod and I'm anxious to continue in 26. Garlon and LansdowneSt, (and whoever else), thanks for your hard work on this project.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by pholmer

Any word on the progress of the NeL Mod for 26? I have had so much fun playing with 25 NeL Mod and I'm anxious to continue in 26. Garlon and LansdowneSt, (and whoever else), thanks for your hard work on this project.

Still working on the fielding for the new additions but Garlon walked me through some steps yesterday that should result in a faster pace on the fielding. It's still going to take some time though. It will be a significant update and there will be lots of testing of it - and not just by those of us working on it. We'll put it out here to get feedback too.

[pholmer]

Thanks for the update.

[pholmer]

LansdowneSt - I was in the middle of a historical game in 26 that had progressed to the 1920s when I noticed that very few black players were coming to MLB in the draft. During the off-season, I switched the NeL odb file for the game's original odb file. The draft that year was flooded with black players, including Charleston, Bell, Donaldson, Torriente, Dismukes, etc. That was several game-seasons ago and everything seems to be working well.

Also, when you are ready to test the 26 NeL Mod, I would be glad to be a beta tester (or whatever you need) to help test it.

By the way, did you get the cvs file I sent you with all the players from the OOTP Negro Leagues game, circa 2009? I'll attach it to this post in case you didn't get it. I was just making a list for myself as a quick reference for Negro Leagues players whose names I was not familiar with and I thought it might be useful to you as well.

[LansdowneSt]

Thanks for the downloads. I'll let you know when it the new version is all put together and ready to go. Still working on fielding over this long weekend...

[Beatles Eternally]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Thanks for the downloads. I'll let you know when it the new version is all put together and ready to go. Still working on fielding over this long weekend...

Hey there LansdowneSt, Just checking in to see if this is close to seeing the light of day in OOTP26. Thanks for all you and Garlon do for this great community!!!

[LansdowneSt]

Hi Beatles. Good to hear from you.

I'll know more next week. The batters are nearly done. The fielding is nearly done. The Master db needs work but that's easy enough for me since I correct info in the core OOTP db for accuracy and the conversion of IDs, debut and retirement years is only an hour's worth of work with the process I use. ... So that leaves the pitching. I've spent the past month reverse engineering and following Eric Chalek's steps for calculating the HR, BB, and K rates (WP and HBP too but those matter less). Eric puts a ton of work into the WAA and other value stats (and my use of those stats perfectly derive core traditional stats like R, ER, ERA, etc for the things I need for OOTP). But OOTP relies heavily on HR/BB and K rates and Eric stopped publishing those.

As the day comes to a close and I can turn from day job to hobby time, I think I am close to a model that will replicate (close enough) his process so I can derive those traditional stats through my own model. The iterations I ran last night were the first pushed through it all the way and the results were pretty darn good. Eric and I differ some on individual years but I reckon part of that is how we allocate the Winter Leagues, different guardrail settings, and the fact I think he blends the HR, BB and K's calculated in his year n with those in his year n+1 and year n-1. So his previously published HR, BB and K stat lines might be inherently already three-year recalc'ed and I elected not to do that. My only blending is when IP for a given year is less than 45 IP.

So far as test runs, I've only pushed Joe Williams, Slim Jones, Rats Henderson and Dick Redding through. After I compare some more results to Eric's last published versions of the traditional stats, I think I'll be confident I can replicate it for all the new players (a lot!) that he never published traditional stats for. I'll also press on and redo the original 212 to eliminate the pre-baked in blending.

When will it be done enough to release for folks to test in a public beta (as it were)? ... Tough to say. But I will know more next week once I test the pitching model some more.