Joe Bug Strikes again

Bishop · 06-14-2006, 04:54 AM

Game is patched, Created a new universe with the default leagues.

The various Winter Leagues now have a large amount of "Joe"s in them, as would happen in the prior patch.

I've also noticed a large number of "american" sounding names in the mexican leagues, from mexico.

Allen Mosier from Nogales
Jim Larson from Acamixtla
Henry McGee from Sombrerete
Pete Koehler from San Luis Potosi
Cam Rhine from San Martin de Hidalgo

and that's just on one team.

On a single Puerto Rican winter league team I have...

9 Joes. The others have comperable numbers of Joes.

Side note:

Created 3 stand alone leagues, a Mexican League, a Dominican WL and a Puerto Rican WL in a Universe. Didn't use the "standard league" options.

The Mexican teams still had plenty of "american sounding names"

However the Joe Bug did not hi the Dominican and Puerto Rican Leagues.
Seems those need to be updated in the next patch perhaps.

jbsnadb · 06-14-2006, 09:14 AM

I find this fascinating, since I couldn't seem to buy a Joe in any of the North American leagues I've created so far.

Bishop · 06-14-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsnadb

I find this fascinating, since I couldn't seem to buy a Joe in any of the North American leagues I've created so far.

Just start a new league, click the checkboxes, run an inaugural draft.

Check Mexico for the odd names

Check PR WL for the Joes.

I'd be curious to see if you get the same thing when you do this.

marky32082 · 06-14-2006, 02:13 PM

Perfectly plausible...I mean the South Korean soccer teamhad 5 or 6 Lee's in their starting lineup yesterday.

Caporegime · 06-16-2006, 05:22 AM

I agree with Bishop, the "Joe bug" lives on!

I started my current league AFTER I installed the patch and the game is still generating tons of "Joe's" from Hispanic nations. I checked the first name file in the database and Joe is not listed among the first names that are supposed to be generated for Latino countries.

To test this further, I just created 10 fictional players for the Dominican Winter League, and 4 of the players generated were named Joe. What gives? I thought this was corrected.

Caporegime · 06-16-2006, 11:35 AM

dola,

Just to be clear, here's the info on the Dominican Republic cut & pasted from the nations.txt:

56,Dominican Republic,Dominican Republic,DOM,Dominican,4,5,1,100,,,,

Now my question is this: If 100% of the names generated for the DR is from "1", as is clearly the case above, and the name "Joe" is not among the first names listed under "1", where are all the Joe's coming from?

Am I doing something wrong, or is the "Joe Bug" still in evidence?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Bishop · 06-16-2006, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caporegime

dola,

Just to be clear, here's the info on the Dominican Republic cut & pasted from the nations.txt:

56,Dominican Republic,Dominican Republic,DOM,Dominican,4,5,1,100,,,,

Now my question is this: If 100% of the names generated for the DR is from "1", as is clearly the case above, and the name "Joe" is not among the first names listed under "1", where are all the Joe's coming from?

Am I doing something wrong, or is the "Joe Bug" still in evidence?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Out of curiousity,

Did you create this league yourself, or did you use the preset Dominican Winter League in the game?

I'm going to try Jamey's name file that he posted in the mods league and see if that helps.

Raidergoo · 06-16-2006, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bishop

I've also noticed a large number of "american" sounding names in the mexican leagues, from mexico.

Mexico will generate plenty of American sounding names. If you don't like it, you can edit the line in nations.txt. If you would like some help on that, ask and something can be drawn up for you.

Caporegime · 06-16-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bishop

Out of curiousity,

Did you create this league yourself, or did you use the preset Dominican Winter League in the game?

I'm going to try Jamey's name file that he posted in the mods league and see if that helps.

Edited to avoid catastrophes

Caporegime · 06-16-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Mexico will generate plenty of American sounding names. If you don't like it, you can edit the line in nations.txt. If you would like some help on that, ask and something can be drawn up for you.

I've already done this myself. Works like a charm in eliminating the massive swarm of illegal American immigrants that Mexico is currently experiencing.

124,Mexico,Mexico,MEX,Mexican,4,5,1,100,,,,

Bishop · 06-16-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caporegime

I used the preset DWL.

That was my question. It seems whatever fixes were made to the names file in the patch didn't affect the preset leagues possibly. Thanks for the workaround.

Raidergoo · 06-16-2006, 01:16 PM

Textbook!

Caporegime · 06-16-2006, 01:44 PM

Warning!!

Disregard the workaround I posted above. I'm an idiot! I neglected to initially check the rosters of existing teams in my leagues after I swapped the names.dat. When I did, I discovered much to my horror that ALL the names of the existing players in my league were changed.

In short, while this eliminated the "Joe Bug" for me, it also systematically renamed every player in my universe. This is not a viable workaround and I apologize for presenting it as such.

Bishop · 06-16-2006, 06:46 PM

Caporegime,

Doing a test with Jamey's name file, along with the nations edit you posted, I have no problems using the default starting leagues. No 9 Joes and no Pete Koehlers from San Luis Potosi running around.

Give that a try and see if it works for you as well

battists · 07-06-2006, 04:06 PM

Hello all,

Just following up on this issue. It sounds like everyone has found a plausible workaround to their satisfaction. Some tweaks to nations and names files were made for Patch 2, although I believe Mexico still has some American names in there.

Meanwhile, I create a game with every standard league in the Patch 2 beta, and the names look pretty good. I think this is getting tightened up, and I'm going to move this to the Closed/Claimed Fixed forum. Feel free to let me know if you want to discuss further!

Thanks,

Steve

06-14-2006, 04:54 AM	#1
Bishop All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tejas Posts: 709	Joe Bug Strikes again Game is patched, Created a new universe with the default leagues. The various Winter Leagues now have a large amount of "Joe"s in them, as would happen in the prior patch. I've also noticed a large number of "american" sounding names in the mexican leagues, from mexico. Allen Mosier from Nogales Jim Larson from Acamixtla Henry McGee from Sombrerete Pete Koehler from San Luis Potosi Cam Rhine from San Martin de Hidalgo and that's just on one team. On a single Puerto Rican winter league team I have... 9 Joes. The others have comperable numbers of Joes. Side note: Created 3 stand alone leagues, a Mexican League, a Dominican WL and a Puerto Rican WL in a Universe. Didn't use the "standard league" options. The Mexican teams still had plenty of "american sounding names" However the Joe Bug did not hi the Dominican and Puerto Rican Leagues. Seems those need to be updated in the next patch perhaps. Last edited by Bishop; 06-14-2006 at 05:10 AM.

06-14-2006, 02:13 PM	#4
marky32082 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 283	Perfectly plausible...I mean the South Korean soccer teamhad 5 or 6 Lee's in their starting lineup yesterday. __________________ These pretzels are making me thirsty!

06-16-2006, 05:22 AM	#5
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	I agree with Bishop, the "Joe bug" lives on! I started my current league AFTER I installed the patch and the game is still generating tons of "Joe's" from Hispanic nations. I checked the first name file in the database and Joe is not listed among the first names that are supposed to be generated for Latino countries. To test this further, I just created 10 fictional players for the Dominican Winter League, and 4 of the players generated were named Joe. What gives? I thought this was corrected. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra

06-16-2006, 11:35 AM	#6
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	dola, Just to be clear, here's the info on the Dominican Republic cut & pasted from the nations.txt: 56,Dominican Republic,Dominican Republic,DOM,Dominican,4,5,1,100,,,, Now my question is this: If 100% of the names generated for the DR is from "1", as is clearly the case above, and the name "Joe" is not among the first names listed under "1", where are all the Joe's coming from? Am I doing something wrong, or is the "Joe Bug" still in evidence? Thanks in advance for any help. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra Last edited by Caporegime; 06-16-2006 at 11:36 AM.

06-16-2006, 01:44 PM	#13
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	Warning!! Disregard the workaround I posted above. I'm an idiot! I neglected to initially check the rosters of existing teams in my leagues after I swapped the names.dat. When I did, I discovered much to my horror that ALL the names of the existing players in my league were changed. In short, while this eliminated the "Joe Bug" for me, it also systematically renamed every player in my universe. This is not a viable workaround and I apologize for presenting it as such. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra

06-14-2006, 09:14 AM	#2
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098	I find this fascinating, since I couldn't seem to buy a Joe in any of the North American leagues I've created so far.

06-16-2006, 01:16 PM	#12
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Textbook!

06-16-2006, 06:46 PM	#14
Bishop All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tejas Posts: 709	Caporegime, Doing a test with Jamey's name file, along with the nations edit you posted, I have no problems using the default starting leagues. No 9 Joes and no Pete Koehlers from San Luis Potosi running around. Give that a try and see if it works for you as well

07-06-2006, 04:06 PM	#15
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Hello all, Just following up on this issue. It sounds like everyone has found a plausible workaround to their satisfaction. Some tweaks to nations and names files were made for Patch 2, although I believe Mexico still has some American names in there. Meanwhile, I create a game with every standard league in the Patch 2 beta, and the names look pretty good. I think this is getting tightened up, and I'm going to move this to the Closed/Claimed Fixed forum. Feel free to let me know if you want to discuss further! Thanks, Steve