Minor League Injuries

Recte44 · 07-09-2006, 03:52 PM

I'm playing with MLB Quickstart 2.0.. I'm the manager of the Norfolk Tides, the Mets AAA affiliate.

When a player gets injured in the minors, there is no option to place him on the Disabled List. There also isn't a way to sign another player to replace him (or call one up from a lower affiliate). It's also quite annoying that when you ask Bench Coach for depth charts, staff, lineups, etc. he doesn't seem to realize that a player is injured and includes him anyway.

Recte44 · 07-09-2006, 04:35 PM

Another bump.

bibs · 07-09-2006, 05:47 PM

Do you have both patches? Did you read the entire 250 page game guide? Can you post a couple of dozen screenshots?

Ryan W. · 07-09-2006, 06:06 PM

I don't believe this is a bug because minor league rosters have unlimited (i think?) roster spots and the DL is only for the major leagues. Your second point is a valid one though. The computer AI should recognize you need another position player (or give you the option to "recommend" a player to bring up) when an injury like that happens.

Recte44 · 07-09-2006, 07:26 PM

You don't think it's a bug that the AI puts an injured player in your depth chart, lineup and pitching rotation????

OakDragon · 07-09-2006, 07:31 PM

No, because those are default templates. The AI won't use an injured a player in the game. It'll skip over him and choose someone else. That is what depth charts and pitching charts are for. So the AI knows who to use as a backup and when to use them.

bibs · 07-09-2006, 07:33 PM

Recte, just read this post and all your problems are solved. Kuffrey loved it so how can you go wrong!

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=126598

Recte44 · 07-10-2006, 08:21 AM

Friendly morning bump. Someone answer, please.

Recte44 · 07-10-2006, 03:58 PM

Still waiting patiently for an answer and/or TT# here.

andymac · 07-10-2006, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBC Chairman

Still waiting patiently for an answer and/or TT# here.

It isn't considered a bug because it works the way it does by design choice. I agree with you that I don't like it, but it is what it is for now. In order for this to work properly, though, they need 1) a minor league DL and 2) minor league roster sizes that the AI will use (not just a "general" roster size). These are both things that are going to cause database design changes to implement, though, which likely means they will be slow coming if they come at all.

Recte44 · 07-10-2006, 04:17 PM

But it IS a bug, gosh darn it.

joshuaaaaaa · 07-10-2006, 08:28 PM

All together now..."It's not a bug, its a feature!"

Braveheart · 07-10-2006, 09:01 PM

Did you get 10% off on this feature?

fifthbetle · 07-10-2006, 10:17 PM

[airplane 2] It must be a human error. [/airplane 2]

battists · 07-12-2006, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBC Chairman

I'm playing with MLB Quickstart 2.0.. I'm the manager of the Norfolk Tides, the Mets AAA affiliate.

When a player gets injured in the minors, there is no option to place him on the Disabled List. There also isn't a way to sign another player to replace him (or call one up from a lower affiliate). It's also quite annoying that when you ask Bench Coach for depth charts, staff, lineups, etc. he doesn't seem to realize that a player is injured and includes him anyway.

Hi GBC (again),

Most of the other respondents here have pretty much covered this, but they are indeed right. There are two issues you have raised here, I'll address them separately.

1. No option to place minor leaguers on the disabled list - As others mentioned, there is no minor league disabled list in this version of the game. Therefore, in the current version, you have no choice but to play without him.

Now, are you saying that the major league club has failed to staff your club to allow you to play the games? If that's the case, I will speak to Markus about trying to make sure that those spots get filled. However, I'm not sure that Markus will consider it a bug, unless the major league team is leaving you without 9 players to put on the field for a game. I'm open to discussing it further though!

2. Managers put injured players in lineups and depth charts - Quoting myself from another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

The idea behind Markus' original coding is that when you ask the manager for the lineup, he gives you the best lineup given the players on your roster, regardless of injury status.

Then, when a game is auto-simmed, the game makes the decision about who to substitute for injured players. Of course, if you don't want to rely on them, you can manually adjust your lineup and depth charts to account for injuries. The reasoning behind this is pretty straightforward: if they factored in injuries, then you'd have to remember to redo this every time a player returned from an injury. For example, let's say your starting 2B is Will Davis, a stud. He pulls a muscle, is out for 4 weeks. So, you ask your manager to set up the lineup, and he takes Davis out due to the injury and puts in Jon Scrubini, the utility infielder. 4 weeks go by, and Davis is ready to come back. But, until you hit "ask manager for lineups" again, Scrubini is still in the lineup and the starter in the depth charts.

With the current model, the game will put Davis back in the game as soon as he is available again.

Let me know if I can answer anything else...

Thanks,

Steve

battists · 07-19-2006, 03:25 PM

We have a rule that states that Tech Support threads wherein we have not received a response within 7 days will be closed.

This one meets this criteria, so I'm closing this.

If you want to discuss it again, just PM me with the thread link, and I'll re-open. (Don't just say "Hey, reopen my thread." I need to know the URL, thanks!)

Steve

07-09-2006, 03:52 PM	#1
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,805	Minor League Injuries I'm playing with MLB Quickstart 2.0.. I'm the manager of the Norfolk Tides, the Mets AAA affiliate. When a player gets injured in the minors, there is no option to place him on the Disabled List. There also isn't a way to sign another player to replace him (or call one up from a lower affiliate). It's also quite annoying that when you ask Bench Coach for depth charts, staff, lineups, etc. he doesn't seem to realize that a player is injured and includes him anyway. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-09-2006, 04:35 PM	#2
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,805	Another bump. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-09-2006, 07:26 PM	#5
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,805	You don't think it's a bug that the AI puts an injured player in your depth chart, lineup and pitching rotation???? __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-10-2006, 08:21 AM	#8
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,805	Friendly morning bump. Someone answer, please. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-10-2006, 03:58 PM	#9
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,805	Still waiting patiently for an answer and/or TT# here. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-09-2006, 05:47 PM	#3
bibs Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 84	Do you have both patches? Did you read the entire 250 page game guide? Can you post a couple of dozen screenshots?

07-09-2006, 06:06 PM	#4
Ryan W. Jack of all trades Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere, not sure where. Maybe nearby, maybe far away. Posts: 1,371	I don't believe this is a bug because minor league rosters have unlimited (i think?) roster spots and the DL is only for the major leagues. Your second point is a valid one though. The computer AI should recognize you need another position player (or give you the option to "recommend" a player to bring up) when an injury like that happens.

07-09-2006, 07:31 PM	#6
OakDragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Jose, CA USA Posts: 3,494	No, because those are default templates. The AI won't use an injured a player in the game. It'll skip over him and choose someone else. That is what depth charts and pitching charts are for. So the AI knows who to use as a backup and when to use them.

07-09-2006, 07:33 PM	#7
bibs Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 84	Recte, just read this post and all your problems are solved. Kuffrey loved it so how can you go wrong! http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=126598

07-10-2006, 04:17 PM	#11
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,805	But it IS a bug, gosh darn it. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-10-2006, 08:28 PM	#12
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	All together now..."It's not a bug, its a feature!" __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

07-10-2006, 09:01 PM	#13
Braveheart Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 152	Did you get 10% off on this feature? __________________ "All men die, not all men really live" --William Wallace "See thats the problem with this guy. You call him a moron, and he just sits there acting moronly" This message brought up to from the same people you brought you "FREE BIBS"

07-10-2006, 10:17 PM	#14
fifthbetle Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 31	[airplane 2] It must be a human error. [/airplane 2] __________________ Live a little. Be a gypsy. Get around. Get your feet up off the ground. Live a little. Get around. -Paul McCartney

07-19-2006, 03:25 PM	#16
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	We have a rule that states that Tech Support threads wherein we have not received a response within 7 days will be closed. This one meets this criteria, so I'm closing this. If you want to discuss it again, just PM me with the thread link, and I'll re-open. (Don't just say "Hey, reopen my thread." I need to know the URL, thanks!) Steve