"Randomize Cities" - How random?

garyh · 06-01-2006, 12:53 PM

I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble with the Randomize Cities function during league creation. I created two US leagues last night, with cities and names I choose, and then five minor leagues for each. I swear, as many times as I clicked randomize, I think every single league ended up with Glendale in it. Other cities also were coming up almost every time - Jersey City, Anchorage, Newark, etc. It also kept generating teams in cities that had major league teams.

Is it just me?

In any case, if it's not my imagination, would it be possible to increase the randomness and also maybe run a check and make sure you don't have teams in that city alredy?

garyh · 06-01-2006, 07:26 PM

Bump on a day where the boards are flyin!

garyh · 06-02-2006, 11:46 AM

One last bump...

JWay · 06-02-2006, 11:49 AM

you could randomly get the same set of cities everytime, since its random, you never know....

garyh · 06-02-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWay

you could randomly get the same set of cities everytime, since its random, you never know....

Yeah, but the odds that would have to be pretty low.

And it would be nice if the game checked to see if the city had already been used.

I had the "Madison has an illegal number of players" error last night, and when searching for the culprit, I discovered that 4 of my 10 US minor leagues has a team in Madison.

treedom · 06-02-2006, 12:23 PM

I don't really like the random cities thing too much. First because of the good chance of duplicates, and second because you can have larger cities with single-A clubs than major-league clubs. It's kinda useless, imho.

PS - to all fanboi reading this i do liek the gaem so plz dont flame me ok thank i am out

garyh · 06-02-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treedom

I don't really like the random cities thing too much. First because of the good chance of duplicates, and second because you can have larger cities with single-A clubs than major-league clubs. It's kinda useless, imho.

Thus my asking to have some sort of duplicate check.

I thought I saw one of the blogs mention lower leagues had smaller city's, but I've had real-life MLB city's like Pittsburgh and Cincinatti come up on as random cities in rookie leagues, so either that wasn't the case or it doesn't really work.

Siv · 06-02-2006, 12:54 PM

We need a duplicate check as I kept getting two teams from the same city of 1800.

TC Dale · 06-02-2006, 01:15 PM

Moved to Tech Support.

TC Dale · 07-02-2006, 09:58 PM

1.01 patch- Still an issue? Verfying.

Raidergoo · 07-02-2006, 11:19 PM

From personal observation, not fixed, still an issue.

I get multiple same cities in all levels of minors, and this is in TT, too.

OakDragon · 07-02-2006, 11:25 PM

'T would be nice if we could check certain cities/nicknames we wanted to keep and then it would randomize the rest.

disposableheros · 07-03-2006, 12:53 AM

oddly, i see Glendale and Laredo much more frequently then any other cities.

Raidergoo · 07-03-2006, 07:14 AM

Norfolk and Yonkers, too.

Zeyes · 07-03-2006, 01:27 PM

Playing around with the "Randomize Cities" button, I've just had a serious case of Atlantas, Clevelands, Arlingtons, Albuquerques, and El Pasos. This persisted even after cancelling out of the creation process, and clicking "Create New Game" again, so I'm guessing there's a random seed that isn't very random in its results, and also doesn't get refreshed very often (maybe only when the game is reopened?).

Raidergoo · 07-09-2006, 12:29 AM

OK how is this working out post patch 2? Still an issue?

disposableheros · 07-13-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

OK how is this working out post patch 2? Still an issue?

yep, still an issue.

i just created a 16 team league with 5 levels of minors (should be 80 unique minor-league teams).

Glendale appeared 4 times (2 in the same level

), Garland appeared 4 times, Henderson (one of the Major League teams) appears 3 teams in the minors, Paradise 2 times, Corpus Christi 2 times, Orlando 2 times, Riverside 2 times, Colorado Springs 2 times, Laredo 2 times, Rochester 2 times, Pittsburgh 2 times, Raleigh 2 times, Aurora 2 times, Akron 2 times, Saint Petersburg 2 times, Buffalo 2 times and Chula Vista 2 times.

that's 40 out of 80 teams, if that helps anything.

Raidergoo · 07-13-2006, 11:03 PM

Guess what I am working on right now?

Results soon.

EDIT

Not bad. 16 teams, 2 sub leagues, full minors.

I kept clicking randomize, probably a dozen times at multiple levels.

One time, I saw Aurora twice, did not bother to check to see if this was the same town in the same state.

Saw Minneapolis get a AA team as well as Saint Paul, but when I checked to see if there was a MLB team in Minneapolis, there was not.

Short version:

Improved.

battists · 07-19-2006, 08:04 PM

Moving this to claimed fixed for now.

06-01-2006, 12:53 PM	#1
garyh Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 49	"Randomize Cities" - How random? I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble with the Randomize Cities function during league creation. I created two US leagues last night, with cities and names I choose, and then five minor leagues for each. I swear, as many times as I clicked randomize, I think every single league ended up with Glendale in it. Other cities also were coming up almost every time - Jersey City, Anchorage, Newark, etc. It also kept generating teams in cities that had major league teams. Is it just me? In any case, if it's not my imagination, would it be possible to increase the randomness and also maybe run a check and make sure you don't have teams in that city alredy?

06-02-2006, 12:23 PM	#6
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	I don't really like the random cities thing too much. First because of the good chance of duplicates, and second because you can have larger cities with single-A clubs than major-league clubs. It's kinda useless, imho. PS - to all fanboi reading this i do liek the gaem so plz dont flame me ok thank i am out __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

06-02-2006, 01:15 PM	#9
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,953	Moved to Tech Support. __________________ ----------------------------------

07-02-2006, 09:58 PM	#10
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,953	1.01 patch- Still an issue? Verfying. __________________ ----------------------------------

07-03-2006, 12:53 AM	#13
disposableheros Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,332	oddly, i see Glendale and Laredo much more frequently then any other cities. __________________ 2 Wild Cards, 11 Division Champs, 4 League Champs, 3 World Champs, and 3 Best GM awards Baseball Maelstrom - New York Mets - 180-149 .547 Corporate League Baseball - Coke Buzz - 889-649 .578 Western Hemisphere Baseball League - Santiago Saints - 672-793 .459 Record - 2428-2271 .517

06-01-2006, 07:26 PM	#2
garyh Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 49	Bump on a day where the boards are flyin!

06-02-2006, 11:46 AM	#3
garyh Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 49	One last bump...

06-02-2006, 11:49 AM	#4
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021	you could randomly get the same set of cities everytime, since its random, you never know....

06-02-2006, 12:54 PM	#8
Siv Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 365	We need a duplicate check as I kept getting two teams from the same city of 1800.

07-02-2006, 11:19 PM	#11
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	From personal observation, not fixed, still an issue. I get multiple same cities in all levels of minors, and this is in TT, too.

07-02-2006, 11:25 PM	#12
OakDragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Jose, CA USA Posts: 3,494	'T would be nice if we could check certain cities/nicknames we wanted to keep and then it would randomize the rest.

07-03-2006, 07:14 AM	#14
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Norfolk and Yonkers, too.

07-03-2006, 01:27 PM	#15
Zeyes All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 818	Playing around with the "Randomize Cities" button, I've just had a serious case of Atlantas, Clevelands, Arlingtons, Albuquerques, and El Pasos. This persisted even after cancelling out of the creation process, and clicking "Create New Game" again, so I'm guessing there's a random seed that isn't very random in its results, and also doesn't get refreshed very often (maybe only when the game is reopened?).

07-09-2006, 12:29 AM	#16
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	OK how is this working out post patch 2? Still an issue?

07-13-2006, 11:03 PM	#18
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Guess what I am working on right now? Results soon. EDIT Not bad. 16 teams, 2 sub leagues, full minors. I kept clicking randomize, probably a dozen times at multiple levels. One time, I saw Aurora twice, did not bother to check to see if this was the same town in the same state. Saw Minneapolis get a AA team as well as Saint Paul, but when I checked to see if there was a MLB team in Minneapolis, there was not. Short version: Improved. Last edited by Raidergoo; 07-13-2006 at 11:16 PM.

07-19-2006, 08:04 PM	#19
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Moving this to claimed fixed for now.