9 Hour FaceGen headache STILL not fixed

Queensryche · 03-22-2007, 06:45 PM

I haven't even simmed a game for real yet in over 9 hours. If the game wasn't crashing earlier,it's been the FaceGen. One minute it's working,I close the game,come back in,and it's not initialized anymore. I have updated drivers. I have a Radeon Xpress 200m.

I know it works because I've had it running today,the problem is there is something reseting it to Not intilalize once you exit the game and get back in.

Does anyone have any idea what to do?

thomamon · 03-22-2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queensryche

I haven't even simmed a game for real yet in over 9 hours. If the game wasn't crashing earlier,it's been the FaceGen. One minute it's working,I close the game,come back in,and it's not initialized anymore. I have updated drivers. I have a Radeon Xpress 200m.

I know it works because I've had it running today,the problem is there is something reseting it to Not intilalize once you exit the game and get back in.

Does anyone have any idea what to do?

Are you using your absolute latest drivers?

Queensryche · 03-22-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Are you using your absolute latest drivers?

Yes I am. Newest ATI drivers.

TC Dale · 03-22-2007, 08:08 PM

Ok this is assuming a few things, By looking at your screenshot, you have the Open GL drivers as default. What happens if you go back to Direct 3D and make sure those are good to go? (Does it work or not work with D3D as default...? Or maybe going with default settings instead of custom for OpenGL?)

Solonor · 03-22-2007, 08:41 PM

I don't know how helpful this is, but one of our league GM's found that facegen wouldn't work until he went to the previous drivers, instead of the latest.

Video cards is crazy!

Queensryche · 03-23-2007, 10:36 PM

It's still not working on a Radeon Xpress 200M video card. It works off and on. It's never stable. Sometimes it works,sometimes it doesn't. Can someone else do some testing on this to find a solution. It's killing my desire to play this game.

Queensryche · 03-23-2007, 10:42 PM

Oh goodie,now my league data is corrupt out of the blue. The last 2 days I've spent setting up my league is now down the drain. GREAT GAME SO FAR!!!

bp_ · 03-23-2007, 10:49 PM

See the last post in this thread. Is this the driver you installed? http://www.driverheaven.net/mobility...ress-200m.html

Also, some advice - try to sound less standoff-ish in your posts. More people will try to help you.

Queensryche · 03-23-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bp_

See the last post in this thread. Is this the driver you installed? http://www.driverheaven.net/mobility...ress-200m.html

Also, some advice - try to sound less standoff-ish in your posts. More people will try to help you.

I'm sorry,but you would be frustrated too if you haven't had one satisfying moment yet with a game you've looked forward to all year long. I'll try those drivers,and I do appreciate any help at all.

bp_ · 03-23-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Queensryche

I'm sorry,but you would be frustrated too if you haven't had one satisfying moment yet with a game you've looked forward to all year long. I'll try those drivers,and I do appreciate any help at all.

I can understand the frustration. It sucks when you want to play and something isn't working but a lot of the volunteer support people here also don't want to deal with people that are uber negative. Just try to be as positive as possible and I guarantee people here will try to help.

Make sure the driver I linked to is the right one for your computer. I can't guarantee. That is just what I found.

Queensryche · 03-23-2007, 11:33 PM

Nope,those drivers didn't do anything to help either.

bp_ · 03-23-2007, 11:38 PM

read this: http://fixthe200m.wordpress.com/2006...e-xpress-200m/

Could it be a BIOS issue?

Edit: I don't advise messing with BIOS unless u r comfortable with doing this type of thing.

PotatoPeeler · 03-24-2007, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queensryche

I'm sorry,but you would be frustrated too if you haven't had one satisfying moment yet with a game you've looked forward to all year long. I'll try those drivers,and I do appreciate any help at all.

You can be frustrated all you want. There's nothing wrong with that. It's the manifestations of those frustrations that the rest of us could do with out. Try that out and you might receive more help.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-24-2007, 03:28 AM

I am really sorry that this does not work for you yet. But please understand that it is not a problem in the game, but a problem with your system

We're trying all we can to help you here, please be a little bit nicer.

battists · 03-24-2007, 07:28 PM

Queensryche,

I know you're pretty frustrated, but we've had a few reports of people able to play the game fine with your exact video card. One person mentioned driver version 7.14.

I know you said you had the latest drivers, but could you please let me know the specific version?

Thanks!

Steve

Mattingly06 · 03-24-2007, 08:07 PM

I have an xpress 200m as well and it works for me. I don't know if you're using Vista but in my experience it gets a little buggy when I install games. OOTP 6.5 didn't even open when I first installed it, a few hours later Vista automatically searched online for a fix and it worked. Same for OOTP 2007. Facegen wasn't wasn't initializing at first (to my understanding that means the video card doesn't support it) but a few hours later it was fine and I haven't had any problems since.

Driver Packaging Version 8.341-070125m-042937C
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
Driver File Path \REGISTRY\MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Cla ss\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000
Direct3D Version 7.14.10.0471
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.0681
CATALYST® Control Center Version 2.0.2519.38216

If you need any other info ask away...I'm not too tech savvy btw.

Melo · 03-24-2007, 10:02 PM

Hi, I was asked to provide some info on my ATI 200M card. This is copied directly from the main screen of the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Running XP Home. Res is 1280 x 800 32 bit

Driver Packaging Version 8.342-070202a1-041238C-ATI
Catalyst® Version 07.2
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6666
2D Driver File Path System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{4672817E-913B-4878-831B-F2CD9A8C7AE6}\0000
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0471
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.6347
Catalyst® Control Center Version 2007.0202.1923.34565

Hope this helps. If I can provide more info, just ask

Melo · 03-26-2007, 08:44 AM

bump to ensure that this gets seen and curious if QR's problem has been resolved or not.

Queensryche · 03-26-2007, 05:19 PM

Nope,still not resolved. Look at the clock in the bottom right of the screen on screenshots 2 and 3. As you can see,I just got out of the game,and jumped right back in,it never works the second time.

battists · 03-26-2007, 07:10 PM

Queensryche, given the jillion options in the Catalyst software, would it make sense to review with Melo the settings on the diffent tabs? He's got the game working with the exact same drivers as yours.

Quick question for both of you:

What is your screen resolution set to, and are you playing in windowed mode or full screen?

I just feel like I'd like to see Queensryche using IDENTICAL settings to Melo, just to see if that makes a difference.

03-22-2007, 06:45 PM	#1
Queensryche Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 453	9 Hour FaceGen headache STILL not fixed I haven't even simmed a game for real yet in over 9 hours. If the game wasn't crashing earlier,it's been the FaceGen. One minute it's working,I close the game,come back in,and it's not initialized anymore. I have updated drivers. I have a Radeon Xpress 200m. I know it works because I've had it running today,the problem is there is something reseting it to Not intilalize once you exit the game and get back in. Does anyone have any idea what to do?

03-22-2007, 08:08 PM	#4
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,874	Ok this is assuming a few things, By looking at your screenshot, you have the Open GL drivers as default. What happens if you go back to Direct 3D and make sure those are good to go? (Does it work or not work with D3D as default...? Or maybe going with default settings instead of custom for OpenGL?) __________________ ---------------------------------- “Don't go around saying the world owes you a living, the world owes you nothing, it was here first.” Mark Twain.

03-22-2007, 08:41 PM	#5
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,459	I don't know how helpful this is, but one of our league GM's found that facegen wouldn't work until he went to the previous drivers, instead of the latest. Video cards is crazy! __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

03-23-2007, 10:36 PM	#6
Queensryche Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 453	So...once again..I submit a FaceGen problem It's still not working on a Radeon Xpress 200M video card. It works off and on. It's never stable. Sometimes it works,sometimes it doesn't. Can someone else do some testing on this to find a solution. It's killing my desire to play this game.

03-23-2007, 10:49 PM	#8
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,804 Blog Entries: 1	See the last post in this thread. Is this the driver you installed? http://www.driverheaven.net/mobility...ress-200m.html Also, some advice - try to sound less standoff-ish in your posts. More people will try to help you. __________________ Commish: Over The Mound

03-23-2007, 10:42 PM	#7
Queensryche Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 453	Oh goodie,now my league data is corrupt out of the blue. The last 2 days I've spent setting up my league is now down the drain. GREAT GAME SO FAR!!!

03-23-2007, 11:33 PM	#11
Queensryche Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 453	Nope,those drivers didn't do anything to help either.

03-23-2007, 11:38 PM	#12
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,804 Blog Entries: 1	read this: http://fixthe200m.wordpress.com/2006...e-xpress-200m/ Could it be a BIOS issue? Edit: I don't advise messing with BIOS unless u r comfortable with doing this type of thing. __________________ Commish: Over The Mound Last edited by bp_; 03-23-2007 at 11:39 PM.

03-24-2007, 03:28 AM	#14
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,806	I am really sorry that this does not work for you yet. But please understand that it is not a problem in the game, but a problem with your system We're trying all we can to help you here, please be a little bit nicer.

03-24-2007, 07:28 PM	#15
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	Queensryche, I know you're pretty frustrated, but we've had a few reports of people able to play the game fine with your exact video card. One person mentioned driver version 7.14. I know you said you had the latest drivers, but could you please let me know the specific version? Thanks! Steve

03-24-2007, 08:07 PM	#16
Mattingly06 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 45	I have an xpress 200m as well and it works for me. I don't know if you're using Vista but in my experience it gets a little buggy when I install games. OOTP 6.5 didn't even open when I first installed it, a few hours later Vista automatically searched online for a fix and it worked. Same for OOTP 2007. Facegen wasn't wasn't initializing at first (to my understanding that means the video card doesn't support it) but a few hours later it was fine and I haven't had any problems since. Driver Packaging Version 8.341-070125m-042937C Provider ATI Technologies Inc. Driver File Path \REGISTRY\MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Cla ss\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000 Direct3D Version 7.14.10.0471 OpenGL Version 6.14.10.0681 CATALYST® Control Center Version 2.0.2519.38216 If you need any other info ask away...I'm not too tech savvy btw. Last edited by Mattingly06; 03-25-2007 at 12:41 PM. Reason: more info about my config

03-24-2007, 10:02 PM	#17
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	Hi, I was asked to provide some info on my ATI 200M card. This is copied directly from the main screen of the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Running XP Home. Res is 1280 x 800 32 bit Driver Packaging Version 8.342-070202a1-041238C-ATI Catalyst® Version 07.2 Provider ATI Technologies Inc. 2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6666 2D Driver File Path System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{4672817E-913B-4878-831B-F2CD9A8C7AE6}\0000 Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0471 OpenGL Version 6.14.10.6347 Catalyst® Control Center Version 2007.0202.1923.34565 Hope this helps. If I can provide more info, just ask Last edited by Melo; 03-24-2007 at 10:05 PM.

03-26-2007, 08:44 AM	#18
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	bump to ensure that this gets seen and curious if QR's problem has been resolved or not.

03-26-2007, 05:19 PM	#19
Queensryche Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 453	Nope,still not resolved. Look at the clock in the bottom right of the screen on screenshots 2 and 3. As you can see,I just got out of the game,and jumped right back in,it never works the second time.

03-26-2007, 07:10 PM	#20
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	Queensryche, given the jillion options in the Catalyst software, would it make sense to review with Melo the settings on the diffent tabs? He's got the game working with the exact same drivers as yours. Quick question for both of you: What is your screen resolution set to, and are you playing in windowed mode or full screen? I just feel like I'd like to see Queensryche using IDENTICAL settings to Melo, just to see if that makes a difference.