Michael Tarr vs Miguel Garcia: Who is the greatest?

Habsfan18 · 08-02-2015, 08:49 PM

..in my fictional MLB history.

With everything considered, these 2 are without a doubt the kings of the mound in my fictional MLB history. Both were almost unanimously selected as 1st ballot Hall of Famers. Looking at their career stars, who do you view as the greatest? And how close do you consider it? If you need any more info, just ask.

Thanks!

xepicx2729 · 08-02-2015, 08:54 PM

I noticed your name in game is Nap Lajoie (Larry). Great HoF 2B.

Habsfan18 · 08-02-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xepicx2729

I noticed you're name in game is Nap Lajoie (Larry). Great HoF 2B.

One of my favorite historical players.

Kent814 · 08-02-2015, 10:59 PM

Garcia bcuz of his longevity

The Game · 08-02-2015, 11:43 PM

Garcia lead the league in many categories.

Habsfan18 · 08-03-2015, 11:14 AM

I keep going back and fourth on this one. I want to say Tarr, but Garcia was at the top of his game for longer.

Tram2Whitaker · 08-03-2015, 05:00 PM

It's really hard to say, since the pitchers played in different eras. I would also say that these are likely not the same historical eras, since not many pitchers threw 300 innings in the expansion era. If the modifiers are historically accurate, then Garcia for sure (but then you have to wonder if he used PEDs)

Assuming league total modifiers were static, I'd give the nod to the other guy, with a consistently lower ERA, and consistently winning seasons.

Habsfan18 · 08-03-2015, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tram2Whitaker

It's really hard to say, since the pitchers played in different eras. I would also say that these are likely not the same historical eras, since not many pitchers threw 300 innings in the expansion era. If the modifiers are historically accurate, then Garcia for sure (but then you have to wonder if he used PEDs)

Assuming league total modifiers were static, I'd give the nod to the other guy, with a consistently lower ERA, and consistently winning seasons.

I didn't mess with the modifiers at all. The game used historically accurate modifiers for each season. PED's is a possibility, I suppose. Or he was just superhuman and that good.

IsaacR · 08-03-2015, 06:38 PM

Tarr was more dominant than Garcia, but played less years. I vote Tarr.

darkcloud4579 · 08-03-2015, 06:50 PM

Garcia. Give me a guy who eats inning and wins anyday.

NoOne · 08-03-2015, 09:47 PM

when you compare the stats that are apples to apples, Tarr is the better pitcher. however, era (if the option is on) and talent fluctuation can still influence this.

so, the only way to know for sure is to have your scouting 100% accurate and compare ratings over the course of their careers (numerous scouting reports)... that will tell you who is better regardless of luck.

otherwise it's just an opinion, and opinions are like a**h**es - everyone has one, and they are rarely based on empirical evidence, but rather unsubstantiated feelings and flawed schemas.

Habsfan18 · 08-03-2015, 11:04 PM

One thing working against Tarr, was his bleached blonde goatee that he sported in the 60's. He was Hulk Hogan before Hulk Hogan. Definitely loses some points for that choice of facial hair.

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Michael Tarr	12	54.55%
Miguel Garcia	10	45.45%
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08-02-2015, 08:49 PM	#1
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,249	Michael Tarr vs Miguel Garcia: Who is the greatest? ..in my fictional MLB history. With everything considered, these 2 are without a doubt the kings of the mound in my fictional MLB history. Both were almost unanimously selected as 1st ballot Hall of Famers. Looking at their career stars, who do you view as the greatest? And how close do you consider it? If you need any more info, just ask. Thanks! Attached Images

08-02-2015, 08:54 PM	#2
xepicx2729 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Posts: 390	I noticed your name in game is Nap Lajoie (Larry). Great HoF 2B. __________________ I'm that guy you might see at a ballgame. Last edited by xepicx2729; 08-03-2015 at 12:10 PM.

08-02-2015, 11:43 PM	#5
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Garcia lead the league in many categories. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

08-03-2015, 05:00 PM	#7
Tram2Whitaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 619	It's really hard to say, since the pitchers played in different eras. I would also say that these are likely not the same historical eras, since not many pitchers threw 300 innings in the expansion era. If the modifiers are historically accurate, then Garcia for sure (but then you have to wonder if he used PEDs) Assuming league total modifiers were static, I'd give the nod to the other guy, with a consistently lower ERA, and consistently winning seasons. __________________ 404'd!

08-02-2015, 10:59 PM	#4
Kent814 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 650	Garcia bcuz of his longevity

08-03-2015, 11:14 AM	#6
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,249	I keep going back and fourth on this one. I want to say Tarr, but Garcia was at the top of his game for longer.

08-03-2015, 06:38 PM	#9
IsaacR Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bowie, Maryland Posts: 464	Tarr was more dominant than Garcia, but played less years. I vote Tarr. __________________ The Oriole Way - My Dynasty as the Orioles GM Online Leagues: SBL - Colorado Rockies PATP - Montreal Royals

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darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,688	Garcia. Give me a guy who eats inning and wins anyday. __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

08-03-2015, 09:47 PM	#11
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	when you compare the stats that are apples to apples, Tarr is the better pitcher. however, era (if the option is on) and talent fluctuation can still influence this. so, the only way to know for sure is to have your scouting 100% accurate and compare ratings over the course of their careers (numerous scouting reports)... that will tell you who is better regardless of luck. otherwise it's just an opinion, and opinions are like ahes - everyone has one, and they are rarely based on empirical evidence, but rather unsubstantiated feelings and flawed schemas. Last edited by NoOne; 08-03-2015 at 09:49 PM.

08-03-2015, 11:04 PM	#12
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,249	One thing working against Tarr, was his bleached blonde goatee that he sported in the 60's. He was Hulk Hogan before Hulk Hogan. Definitely loses some points for that choice of facial hair. Attached Images