How do you all handle DTD injuries

Cubfan2001 · 08-04-2017, 09:05 PM

Since DTD injuries is new to this version I was curious how you all tend to handle them?

Do you tend to handle them a little different if it's a pitcher compared to a hitter?

When it's a pitcher do you just make them miss a start like once a month? If it's a hitter make a bench player sit the hurt player every three days or so?

If you let them play without sitting him have you seen them get hurt in the long run?

mitchkenn · 08-04-2017, 09:13 PM

i change them from DtD but unchecking the box, so it looks like a regular 3 or 4 day injury and he is unable to play. If it's more than 4 days, i place them on the 10 day, in hopes they heal faster. Treat pitchers and batters the same.

Orcin · 08-04-2017, 09:18 PM

I see a similar frequency of the injury lingering beyond the original estimate whether I play them or not. I do see some instances of a second injury occurring which would not have been possible if I had sat the player. I have started to put players on the DL more and more, especially if the DTD is moderate and/or long duration. Obviously it depends upon the circumstances such as standings, time of season, and importance of the player. I am less likely to risk my star early in the year and more likely to take a chance in a September pennant race.

r0nster · 08-04-2017, 10:18 PM

for me when I get annoyed with having 15 players on DTD and DL and season only 3 weeks old ... I start going to Commisioner mode. it gets OLD and annoying after awhile

IanIachimoe · 08-05-2017, 12:11 AM

depends on the influence.

I try to sit them as much as I can. if it's a long one (7-8 wks) that can be tough. I play every game so I will start them if needed & sit when I get a good lead or they seem to be struggling. do this mostly for 'minimal' influence.

I haven't had a dtd yet that missed a start, at least one I can recall.

I use the 10 day DL a lot as well. if it's a short dtd, I'll put them there.

BusterKing · 08-05-2017, 09:54 AM

I've been keeping an eye on how the AI handles them, quite interesting.

Here's an example, almost 3 weeks later while still injured the AI gave him a start and he even threw 130 pitches:

Griever20 · 08-05-2017, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

I've been keeping an eye on how the AI handles them, quite interesting.

Here's an example, almost 3 weeks later while still injured the AI gave him a start and he even threw 130 pitches:

In his case, I would consider not putting him on the DL as the hammy only influences running, depending on the situation of course.

With a 13-17 record in May, his contract running till the end of 2021 and his ratings, I would DL him, but in a pennant race in September? He would start, despite (just guessing) there being a higher chance of an additional injury.

BusterKing · 08-05-2017, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Griever20

In his case, I would consider not putting him on the DL as the hammy only influences running, depending on the situation of course.

With a 13-17 record in May, his contract running till the end of 2021 and his ratings, I would DL him, but in a pennant race in September? He would start, despite (just guessing) there being a higher chance of an additional injury.

That's what I mean about the AI, it's making some strange decisions.

TGH-Adfabre · 08-05-2017, 11:38 AM

How do we know the hamstring injury only effect running?

Griever20 · 08-05-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TGH-Adfabre

How do we know the hamstring injury only effect running?

That is why there is this : Influence Hitting, Influence Running and Influence Throwing is listed together with the DtD injury as seen in the screenshot. A pitcher that has a DtD injury that influences only running is not as bad as one that influences throwing as he won't run that much

Cobby · 08-06-2017, 08:58 PM

Just FYI.

So, my CF got a day-to-day injury (sore elbow) (7 weeks). It was listed as minimal so I decided to let him play through it (7 weeks is a long time to sit). Two weeks into it he suffers a torm labrum for a career-ending injury. Dang. If he had been sitting, obviously he wouldn't have had the career-ending injury. I don't know for sure that playing with the injury increases the chances of a more severe injury, but I suspect it does. So, I think that should be figured into the decision...

This guy was a bit of a hard-luck case his whole career. He made the majors at age 17. Then missed 4 years due to military service (ages 19-22). Came back at age 23 and was brilliant for 7 years, then just solid but not brilliant in his age 30 season before the career-ending injury at age 31. Without the hard luck, he'd be a lock for the hall-of-fame. As it is, he'll probably still make it: career .332/.421/.422, 49.8 WAR. But maybe not...

TGH-Adfabre · 08-06-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Griever20

That is why there is this : Influence Hitting, Influence Running and Influence Throwing is listed together with the DtD injury as seen in the screenshot. A pitcher that has a DtD injury that influences only running is not as bad as one that influences throwing as he won't run that much

Thanks. I have not played 18 much and I noticed that portion of the player profile today because of this thread.

swoboda · 08-07-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by r0nster

for me when I get annoyed with having 15 players on DTD and DL and season only 3 weeks old ... I start going to Commisioner mode. it gets OLD and annoying after awhile

I do as well but more often than not I try to give more "expedited healing" to the AI -teams and a bit less to my team.

thirdsaint · 08-07-2017, 03:35 PM

If any of the conditions are 'Moderate' or higher I put them on the DL. I feel if you try to risk it another injury is way more likely, even a serious one. If they are just minor issues I'll play them here and there and give them more rest days.

thirdsaint · 08-07-2017, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobby

Just FYI.

So, my CF got a day-to-day injury (sore elbow) (7 weeks). It was listed as minimal so I decided to let him play through it (7 weeks is a long time to sit). Two weeks into it he suffers a torm labrum for a career-ending injury. Dang. If he had been sitting, obviously he wouldn't have had the career-ending injury. I don't know for sure that playing with the injury increases the chances of a more severe injury, but I suspect it does. So, I think that should be figured into the decision...

This guy was a bit of a hard-luck case his whole career. He made the majors at age 17. Then missed 4 years due to military service (ages 19-22). Came back at age 23 and was brilliant for 7 years, then just solid but not brilliant in his age 30 season before the career-ending injury at age 31. Without the hard luck, he'd be a lock for the hall-of-fame. As it is, he'll probably still make it: career .332/.421/.422, 49.8 WAR. But maybe not...

Wow, if that was real life those fans would be hollering for you to be fired for your carelessness.

buckeye22 · 08-07-2017, 03:59 PM

I had an outfielder sprain his elbow for 5 weeks (moderate affect to throwing, nothing else). Instead of DL'ing him I've been playing him around 3 of every 5 days at first and then pinch hitting.

For the most part it depends on the situation, the injury, the length, and how it affects what they do. A batter with a moderate or higher influence on hitting is going on the DL (or bench if it's a short one). A pitcher with a moderate or higher influence on throwing would do the same. In my case, if I wasn't able to play him at first (I like versatility so I can even move starters around if needed), he would have been DL'd. Would have sucked because he's hitting .342/.411/.605 on May 8th, but better than pinch hitting him for 5 weeks or risking him having to make throws from the OF and making it worse.

Cobby · 08-08-2017, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thirdsaint

Wow, if that was real life those fans would be hollering for you to be fired for your carelessness.

Ha!

Yep, the fans were none too pleased. I'm sure they wanted my head on a stick. But then we won the world series anyway, so they forgot all about it. (very fickle, those fans)

And as I publicly mourned the loss of our great player, secretly I'm thinking - "the guy's got a huge contract and is starting to decline - I'm glad we'll at least free up his salary next year. I just wish I could have traded him for a prospect..."

BBGiovanni · 08-08-2017, 04:30 PM

I do my best to sit the guy, especially if the duration is short or the effectiveness is long. I had one Mets season with Cespedes banged up for weeks and weeks... a little too much like real life :/ thanks a pile programmers!

rpriske · 08-09-2017, 09:50 AM

I treat it like any other injury. I don't play them.

D.L. them if it is long enough. Bench them if it isn't.

The guy complaining about having 15 players DTD... that has never happened to me. I let them heal so it doesn't continue to be a problem.

ThePretender · 08-09-2017, 05:06 PM

I play through injuries. Might try to DH them more if possible. I only DL them if performance suffers.

08-04-2017, 09:05 PM	#1
Cubfan2001 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 416	How do you all handle DTD injuries Since DTD injuries is new to this version I was curious how you all tend to handle them? Do you tend to handle them a little different if it's a pitcher compared to a hitter? When it's a pitcher do you just make them miss a start like once a month? If it's a hitter make a bench player sit the hurt player every three days or so? If you let them play without sitting him have you seen them get hurt in the long run?

08-04-2017, 09:13 PM	#2
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	i change them from DtD but unchecking the box, so it looks like a regular 3 or 4 day injury and he is unable to play. If it's more than 4 days, i place them on the 10 day, in hopes they heal faster. Treat pitchers and batters the same. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

08-05-2017, 12:11 AM	#5
IanIachimoe All Star Starter Join Date: May 2014 Location: paper st. Posts: 1,055	depends on the influence. I try to sit them as much as I can. if it's a long one (7-8 wks) that can be tough. I play every game so I will start them if needed & sit when I get a good lead or they seem to be struggling. do this mostly for 'minimal' influence. I haven't had a dtd yet that missed a start, at least one I can recall. I use the 10 day DL a lot as well. if it's a short dtd, I'll put them there. __________________

08-05-2017, 09:54 AM	#6
BusterKing Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,420	I've been keeping an eye on how the AI handles them, quite interesting. Here's an example, almost 3 weeks later while still injured the AI gave him a start and he even threw 130 pitches: Last edited by BusterKing; 08-05-2017 at 10:19 AM.

08-05-2017, 11:38 AM	#9
TGH-Adfabre Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,599	How do we know the hamstring injury only effect running? __________________ You mock me, therefore I am My wife

08-04-2017, 09:18 PM	#3
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,849	I see a similar frequency of the injury lingering beyond the original estimate whether I play them or not. I do see some instances of a second injury occurring which would not have been possible if I had sat the player. I have started to put players on the DL more and more, especially if the DTD is moderate and/or long duration. Obviously it depends upon the circumstances such as standings, time of season, and importance of the player. I am less likely to risk my star early in the year and more likely to take a chance in a September pennant race.

08-04-2017, 10:18 PM	#4
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,047	for me when I get annoyed with having 15 players on DTD and DL and season only 3 weeks old ... I start going to Commisioner mode. it gets OLD and annoying after awhile

08-06-2017, 08:58 PM	#11
Cobby Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 252	Just FYI. So, my CF got a day-to-day injury (sore elbow) (7 weeks). It was listed as minimal so I decided to let him play through it (7 weeks is a long time to sit). Two weeks into it he suffers a torm labrum for a career-ending injury. Dang. If he had been sitting, obviously he wouldn't have had the career-ending injury. I don't know for sure that playing with the injury increases the chances of a more severe injury, but I suspect it does. So, I think that should be figured into the decision... This guy was a bit of a hard-luck case his whole career. He made the majors at age 17. Then missed 4 years due to military service (ages 19-22). Came back at age 23 and was brilliant for 7 years, then just solid but not brilliant in his age 30 season before the career-ending injury at age 31. Without the hard luck, he'd be a lock for the hall-of-fame. As it is, he'll probably still make it: career .332/.421/.422, 49.8 WAR. But maybe not... Attached Images

08-07-2017, 03:35 PM	#14
thirdsaint Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 364	If any of the conditions are 'Moderate' or higher I put them on the DL. I feel if you try to risk it another injury is way more likely, even a serious one. If they are just minor issues I'll play them here and there and give them more rest days.

08-07-2017, 03:59 PM	#16
buckeye22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 322	I had an outfielder sprain his elbow for 5 weeks (moderate affect to throwing, nothing else). Instead of DL'ing him I've been playing him around 3 of every 5 days at first and then pinch hitting. For the most part it depends on the situation, the injury, the length, and how it affects what they do. A batter with a moderate or higher influence on hitting is going on the DL (or bench if it's a short one). A pitcher with a moderate or higher influence on throwing would do the same. In my case, if I wasn't able to play him at first (I like versatility so I can even move starters around if needed), he would have been DL'd. Would have sucked because he's hitting .342/.411/.605 on May 8th, but better than pinch hitting him for 5 weeks or risking him having to make throws from the OF and making it worse.

08-08-2017, 04:30 PM	#18
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,911	I do my best to sit the guy, especially if the duration is short or the effectiveness is long. I had one Mets season with Cespedes banged up for weeks and weeks... a little too much like real life :/ thanks a pile programmers! __________________ Let's Go (San Jose) Giants, Let's Go Mets! Current Project: WBAT/AABBA: Organized Base Ball And the "New Normal" World Baseball Aid Tournament 2023 trophy round underway!

08-09-2017, 09:50 AM	#19
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 26,050	I treat it like any other injury. I don't play them. D.L. them if it is long enough. Bench them if it isn't. The guy complaining about having 15 players DTD... that has never happened to me. I let them heal so it doesn't continue to be a problem. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

08-09-2017, 05:06 PM	#20
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,321	I play through injuries. Might try to DH them more if possible. I only DL them if performance suffers.