Player asking for a contract that already has one?

krownroyal83 · 11-28-2017, 02:56 AM

Got mail saying that my player wants an offer to keep playing on our team beyond this season. He's not a free agent or anything and it shows we are going to be paying him automatically 508k already next season. Still trying get a hang of how contacts work in baseball.

https://imgur.com/a/SBWYo

eriqjaffe · 11-28-2017, 11:05 AM

The club basically retains all rights to a player for the first six years of their major league service time. The first three can be league-minimum contracts, and the player is arbitration eligible for years 4-6.

There is nothing stopping a club from negotiating a contract that essentially overrides that structure, however. In real life, the White Sox signed Tim Anderson to a 6-year contract after he had only accrued a year of service time (in fact, slightly less than a year). It could actually be an 8-year deal as there are a couple of team option years at the end of it.

Essentially, if you do nothing, nothing will happen. The player will get another $508k contract next year. However, if he's good it might be worth signing an extension that buys out those early years because it often winds up being less expensive. I also hold a theory that if a player wants an early extension and you ignore it, they'll be less likely to sign an extension with you when free agency looms.

krownroyal83 · 11-28-2017, 11:49 AM

Thanks for the insight. It threw me off when the player said he "could sign somewhere else" I was like isn't he under contract? Nice try liar, enjoy the league minimum.

eriqjaffe · 11-28-2017, 02:36 PM

One thing I didn't think of - if you inadvertently offered him a minor league extension it might trigger that response.

krownroyal83 · 11-28-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

One thing I didn't think of - if you inadvertently offered him a minor league extension it might trigger that response.

It's possible I did, but i'm not sure. At least I know that I don't have to worry about losing him at the end of the season since he is still technically under contract. Thanks

jmknpk2 · 11-29-2017, 09:00 PM

I think if the player is one of the early arbitration players, he won't be guaranteed to be controlled for 6 seasons. He will enter arbitration while still in his first three season. Top 20% of players.

Rain King · 12-03-2017, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jmknpk2

I think if the player is one of the early arbitration players, he won't be guaranteed to be controlled for 6 seasons. He will enter arbitration while still in his first three season. Top 20% of players.

This player (super-2) would still be controlled for 6 seasons...they just get 4 seasons of arbitration.

11-28-2017, 02:56 AM	#1
krownroyal83 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 955	Player asking for a contract that already has one? Got mail saying that my player wants an offer to keep playing on our team beyond this season. He's not a free agent or anything and it shows we are going to be paying him automatically 508k already next season. Still trying get a hang of how contacts work in baseball. https://imgur.com/a/SBWYo Last edited by krownroyal83; 11-28-2017 at 03:00 AM.

11-28-2017, 11:05 AM	#2
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,684	The club basically retains all rights to a player for the first six years of their major league service time. The first three can be league-minimum contracts, and the player is arbitration eligible for years 4-6. There is nothing stopping a club from negotiating a contract that essentially overrides that structure, however. In real life, the White Sox signed Tim Anderson to a 6-year contract after he had only accrued a year of service time (in fact, slightly less than a year). It could actually be an 8-year deal as there are a couple of team option years at the end of it. Essentially, if you do nothing, nothing will happen. The player will get another $508k contract next year. However, if he's good it might be worth signing an extension that buys out those early years because it often winds up being less expensive. I also hold a theory that if a player wants an early extension and you ignore it, they'll be less likely to sign an extension with you when free agency looms. __________________

11-28-2017, 11:49 AM	#3
krownroyal83 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 955	Thanks for the insight. It threw me off when the player said he "could sign somewhere else" I was like isn't he under contract? Nice try liar, enjoy the league minimum. Last edited by krownroyal83; 11-28-2017 at 11:53 AM.

11-28-2017, 02:36 PM	#4
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,684	One thing I didn't think of - if you inadvertently offered him a minor league extension it might trigger that response. __________________

11-29-2017, 09:00 PM	#6
jmknpk2 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 982	I think if the player is one of the early arbitration players, he won't be guaranteed to be controlled for 6 seasons. He will enter arbitration while still in his first three season. Top 20% of players.