OOTP18 league to new PC

Reggie · 04-14-2018, 02:38 PM

I'm thinking I have a laptop that is going to die soon. Screen goes all crazy and the game freezes at random times. Also, if I pick up the laptop from the front left side when it is running it makes an awful sound and the screen goes all crazy. Computer issue>bug I'm thinking..lol.

I have a multi year game I haven't brought over from OOTP 18 yet.

If I transfer the league to 19 right now and back it up onto an external hard drive will it work on the new computer on a fresh copy of OOTP19?

Orcin · 04-14-2018, 02:53 PM

Yes, or you could just convert on the new computer.

NoOne · 04-14-2018, 04:46 PM

loud noises: mechanical and suprisingly less likely need to afull replacemnt, if you want to kick the can down the road. cpus, mobos and ram don't make noises when tehy go bad.. -> no moving parts.

likely a fan or the HDD is going on you. fan is obviously a cheap part, but wouldn't cause any slowdowns unless it's overheating.. (in that case, if it's long-term damage may need to replace whole thing as better path -- if it's never shutdown on it's own or gave an alarming noise before doing so, probably fine)... new storage device will run ya $50-100 for a cheapie (SSD would be ~100, mechanical-50).

a bad hdd cna be found using a free software like CrystalDiskInfo. it checks the S.M.A.R.T. feature of th drive.. it will tell you if there's a major problem before wasting money on a new drive. no adware, freeware if i recall... or find some freeware if they changed their business model.

storage devices are super easy to install.. only fits one orientation and the laptop wil have 2-4 screws for where the hdd is located. unscrew, remove, pop in... screw back togeterh.. all done in 2 seconds.

make sure to have a windows usb/cdrom handy before you do this, of course... the same product ID that's adhered to the laptop somewhere can be used. download any drivers that are necessary, like for the network/wifi card. with that you can get thre rest after you re-install.

new laptop -- alwys nice to get new hardware... can't argue that route either. look into building it yourself (serious it's for dummies nowadays), or a website that allows for mass cusomization.. you will get 10x better parts and pay roughly the same amount as buying an acer or hp etc.

can always google CPU's and model#'s and find benchmark comparisons to competition in market. avoid "benchmarking" software tests.. find somethign that uses real life situations and compares "time" or FPS of a 3d video game etc.

benchmarking software is can be cheated... some chips are partly designed to do so. it's like contrast ratio on a tv.. what you read on the specs is total BS if it's higher than ~12000:1 (ie 1,000,000 or infinite.. simply not true or possible with current tech wihtout cheating the rules/system of the test.) panasonic used to list a native contrast ration of ~10k:1 and it was better than any of the 1M, 4M or infinite BS. you'd see blotchy patches on other tvs and better clarity on their plasmas. (even looking at it, many would still take the better specs without any real thought)

Reggie · 04-14-2018, 09:07 PM

HDD is the only thing on this thing I haven't replaced on this thing so it's possible. New RAM..new keyboard.. new screen. It's cheaply made unit bought in a big box store. Dog got tangled up in the cords a while back and pulled it off the table. Took a pretty good shot on the edge when it landed.

Not the best time for me to be buying because I have other stuff that needs replacing. I'm going to try your suggestion first with hard drive. Never bought myself a new laptop. Always bought the kid a new one and took his old one.And he doesn't even play OOTP..so I am due.

NoOne · 04-15-2018, 07:42 AM

yeah, if it fell and still turns on, it's like the HDD. somethign with moving parts etc.

you break a silicon board and it doens't turn on anymore

your hdd is probably in a forced PIO mode, which runs at ~3-4MB/s instead of ~100MB/s. you'd experience constant slowing or pausing of the entire system while runing. even just oving mouse across desktop it may slow down intermittently. the os isn't operating well due to the hdd slowly reading something into RAM. - one possibility

you can use a free memtest from microsoft too.. that will tell you if your RAM is funcitoning properly.

troubleshoot exactly what the problem is so you don't waste money. the fact it turns on after a fall is a good sign, lol, really.

Reggie · 04-16-2018, 08:07 PM

Last time I will update this because it's kind of a boring topic and besides me..who really cares?? LOL. But I'm starting to think this was a memory issue.

Screen went screwy again. Only this time it didn't just freeze but kept going crazy..it's when I noticed the sound I was hearing was coming from the speakers. On reboot I got a black screen and 4 beeps over and over.

Took out and reset both RAM sticks and the computer is zipping around with zero problems now.

04-14-2018, 02:38 PM	#1
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	OOTP18 league to new PC I'm thinking I have a laptop that is going to die soon. Screen goes all crazy and the game freezes at random times. Also, if I pick up the laptop from the front left side when it is running it makes an awful sound and the screen goes all crazy. Computer issue>bug I'm thinking..lol. I have a multi year game I haven't brought over from OOTP 18 yet. If I transfer the league to 19 right now and back it up onto an external hard drive will it work on the new computer on a fresh copy of OOTP19?

04-14-2018, 04:46 PM	#3
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,263 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	loud noises: mechanical and suprisingly less likely need to afull replacemnt, if you want to kick the can down the road. cpus, mobos and ram don't make noises when tehy go bad.. -> no moving parts. likely a fan or the HDD is going on you. fan is obviously a cheap part, but wouldn't cause any slowdowns unless it's overheating.. (in that case, if it's long-term damage may need to replace whole thing as better path -- if it's never shutdown on it's own or gave an alarming noise before doing so, probably fine)... new storage device will run ya $50-100 for a cheapie (SSD would be ~100, mechanical-50). a bad hdd cna be found using a free software like CrystalDiskInfo. it checks the S.M.A.R.T. feature of th drive.. it will tell you if there's a major problem before wasting money on a new drive. no adware, freeware if i recall... or find some freeware if they changed their business model. storage devices are super easy to install.. only fits one orientation and the laptop wil have 2-4 screws for where the hdd is located. unscrew, remove, pop in... screw back togeterh.. all done in 2 seconds. make sure to have a windows usb/cdrom handy before you do this, of course... the same product ID that's adhered to the laptop somewhere can be used. download any drivers that are necessary, like for the network/wifi card. with that you can get thre rest after you re-install. new laptop -- alwys nice to get new hardware... can't argue that route either. look into building it yourself (serious it's for dummies nowadays), or a website that allows for mass cusomization.. you will get 10x better parts and pay roughly the same amount as buying an acer or hp etc. can always google CPU's and model#'s and find benchmark comparisons to competition in market. avoid "benchmarking" software tests.. find somethign that uses real life situations and compares "time" or FPS of a 3d video game etc. benchmarking software is can be cheated... some chips are partly designed to do so. it's like contrast ratio on a tv.. what you read on the specs is total BS if it's higher than ~12000:1 (ie 1,000,000 or infinite.. simply not true or possible with current tech wihtout cheating the rules/system of the test.) panasonic used to list a native contrast ration of ~10k:1 and it was better than any of the 1M, 4M or infinite BS. you'd see blotchy patches on other tvs and better clarity on their plasmas. (even looking at it, many would still take the better specs without any real thought) Last edited by NoOne; 04-14-2018 at 04:48 PM.

04-15-2018, 07:42 AM	#5
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,263 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	yeah, if it fell and still turns on, it's like the HDD. somethign with moving parts etc. you break a silicon board and it doens't turn on anymore your hdd is probably in a forced PIO mode, which runs at ~3-4MB/s instead of ~100MB/s. you'd experience constant slowing or pausing of the entire system while runing. even just oving mouse across desktop it may slow down intermittently. the os isn't operating well due to the hdd slowly reading something into RAM. - one possibility you can use a free memtest from microsoft too.. that will tell you if your RAM is funcitoning properly. troubleshoot exactly what the problem is so you don't waste money. the fact it turns on after a fall is a good sign, lol, really. Last edited by NoOne; 04-15-2018 at 07:43 AM.

04-14-2018, 02:53 PM	#2
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,848 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Yes, or you could just convert on the new computer.

04-14-2018, 09:07 PM	#4
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	HDD is the only thing on this thing I haven't replaced on this thing so it's possible. New RAM..new keyboard.. new screen. It's cheaply made unit bought in a big box store. Dog got tangled up in the cords a while back and pulled it off the table. Took a pretty good shot on the edge when it landed. Not the best time for me to be buying because I have other stuff that needs replacing. I'm going to try your suggestion first with hard drive. Never bought myself a new laptop. Always bought the kid a new one and took his old one.And he doesn't even play OOTP..so I am due.

04-16-2018, 08:07 PM	#6
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	Last time I will update this because it's kind of a boring topic and besides me..who really cares?? LOL. But I'm starting to think this was a memory issue. Screen went screwy again. Only this time it didn't just freeze but kept going crazy..it's when I noticed the sound I was hearing was coming from the speakers. On reboot I got a black screen and 4 beeps over and over. Took out and reset both RAM sticks and the computer is zipping around with zero problems now.