Anyone have a HOF catcher in OOTP 19?

[stealofhome]

I haven't seen one yet, curious if anyone can post the career stats for a HOF catcher in your league completely in OOTP 19. I've heard the catcher stats have been tweaked down a little this year and that the fatigue rules for catchers have changed as well. For good reason as catchers pretty much play 120-140 games a season in real life. I think both of those things add together to make it almost impossible for catchers in the game to mass up HOF numbers.

The best guy in the league I'm looking at now played 17 years with a whole bunch of 3-5 WAR seasons but only got 46% of the vote his first year. Another similar guy got a whole bunch of 60%ish vote numbers but never over the hump. Just curious what it takes to get a catcher there.

[Mets52]

I'm like in year 2083 and I think Mike Piazza is the last catcher to be inducted

[damientheomen3]

Fictional league, this guy's still active but I'd imagine with 15 consecutive gold gloves (in a 1 subleague setup) and 6 silver sluggers this guy will get in. I play with fatigue set to low, and 160 game seasons, btw.

[stealofhome]

I hope that Carlos Villa guy gets in, those are some crazy numbers. In real life the level is much lower for catchers with an average WAR of only 53 for HOF catchers vs 65+ for other positions. Basically every catcher with over 50 career war is a HOF (which looks good for Joe Mauer) https://www.baseball-reference.com/about/jaws.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_C.shtml

[r0nster]

I have had several catchers make the HOF. Admittedly that was before OOTP 19. However with their offensive stats as Catcher I think they would have made it anyways

[MBarrett]

30 years into a 24 team/162 game fictional league locked with 1995 Stats, I have 2 Catchers out of 17 players in the HOF:

Carlos Loredo - 1906 G, 2054 H, 250 HRs, 1080 RBIs, 53.9 WAR
(4 Gold Gloves, 6 Silver Sluggers, 12 All-Stars)

Jeremy McQueen - 2256 G, 2305 H, 259 HRs, 1185 RBIs, 59.4 WAR
(1 Gold Glove, 7 Silver Sluggers, 11 All-Stars)

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by MBarrett

30 years into a 24 team/162 game fictional league locked with 1995 Stats, I have 2 Catchers out of 17 players in the HOF:

Carlos Loredo - 1906 G, 2054 H, 250 HRs, 1080 RBIs, 53.9 WAR
(4 Gold Gloves, 6 Silver Sluggers, 12 All-Stars)

Jeremy McQueen - 2256 G, 2305 H, 259 HRs, 1185 RBIs, 59.4 WAR
(1 Gold Glove, 7 Silver Sluggers, 11 All-Stars)

If this is indicative, then I would think that they have it right for catchers in OOTPB 19. As IRL, there should be a few great catchers in the HoF for their batting achievements but only just that, a few.

[MBarrett]

Initially, I too thought there was a shortage of good Catchers in the game. But as with most things in OOTP, it was all about sample size. The longer my league goes on the more I realize how close to reality this game gets things.

[stealofhome]

Originally Posted by MBarrett

Initially, I too thought there was a shortage of good Catchers in the game. But as with most things in OOTP, it was all about sample size. The longer my league goes on the more I realize how close to reality this game gets things.

I agree, I think the career numbers for catchers look right, but it seems that they aren't getting their due from HOF voters. May just have to pull commish weight and fix that.

[NoOne]

'18 was light on catching talent.

~70 years and i only saw one truly great catcher and a few good ones. maybe 1-2 good offense and deplorable defense guys. the great one squandared the first 3 years of an already late starting career, too.