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Old 07-27-2019, 11:28 PM   #1
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Tired Players

My "if starter tired" substitutions are not working and I need to manually swap them out to get rest. This is not the first time it has happened. It's happened mostly during September or in the playoffs. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:07 AM   #2
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Take a look at your schedule. You may have a really long stretch of games without days off in between. As a result, many players get tired at the same time while your bench is not able to rest all of them at the same time.
Also, players can be shown with a yellow tag without having reached the point where they get replaced.

What schedule/setting do you usually use?
We may need a little bit more information to fully understand your scenario.

Also, sometimes you have a few freak games that go extremely long (example: 18 inning games) or players getting tossed for fighting.

This can really mess with your team and stamina, especially your pitchers.

Example, I lost a playoff series when one of my pitchers was tossed and another game went longer than 9 innings. As a result, I could not get my pitchers any rest and lost several games in a row.
One of the few times that I regretted having only 4 starters during the playoffs.
I have not see this is PT20 but it happened in PT19.
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:58 AM   #3
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Do you have players coming in as defensive substitutions? I had a guy I rested, but was listed for defensive substitution and he entered the game in the 9th inning. He still got full rest, perhaps because he just stood in RF while Rivera struck out the side. OTOH, if he had to catch a fly ball maybe he wouldn't get full rest?
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Old 07-28-2019, 09:17 AM   #4
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My "if starter tired" substitutions are not working and I need to manually swap them out to get rest. This is not the first time it has happened. It's happened mostly during September or in the playoffs. Has this happened to anyone else?
I think I've seen this before when I was in a tight pennant race.
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:57 PM   #5
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The if tired strategy works pretty well for me, but as Joe Hart pointed out, you can have several player fatigued at once, which means one or more still will start because you lack subs. To combat this I run two back up players at each position except shortstop. I'll still have a fatigued player start occasionally, but not often enough I consider it a problem.
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:30 PM   #6
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I dont see how any player could be tired during the playoffs when you only play 3 in a row at most...

during the season though you either have the same sub for multiple positions set so someone will play tired, a resting player comes in to pinch hit or field and doesnt actually get rested fully, or they could be yellow at 85% or so but not actually tired yet
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:52 PM   #7
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I'm not sure but the AI may weigh the extent of the pitcher's fatigue vs. his potential replacement at full rest & auto-pick what it views as the best choice. Definitely not sure, something else could be going on.

Makes a little sense to me if it's happening during the playoffs but not the regular season.

Seems if you want anything particular, you have to do it manually. Otherwise like in this example even though you have "if pitcher tired" set, the AI may have made a choice to pitch the slightly fatigued higher rated pitcher.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:54 PM   #8
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I dont see how any player could be tired during the playoffs when you only play 3 in a row at most...

during the season though you either have the same sub for multiple positions set so someone will play tired, a resting player comes in to pinch hit or field and doesnt actually get rested fully, or they could be yellow at 85% or so but not actually tired yet
Yeah, I'm guessing that's what the colors are for. Green they are a little tired but ready to go. Red they are truly exhausted. In between (like yellow) is chancy.
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