No Limit on Budgets When Too Far In Negative Total Money Available

jspell7575 · 06-27-2020, 02:10 AM

I posted this in the OOTP 20 bug report forum as well, but I figured it would get more views here. If a team is slightly in the red and they try to adjust budgets like scouting or dev, it will revert the budgets to whatever gets them under the overall budget. However, if a team is extremely in the red (not sure what the number is, but the number this team is at is 70mil over budget), the game will not automatically bring the budget down or set the budget to zero. Essentially, a team way over budget can still max out scouting and development but a team that is barely over budget cannot. I believe the threshold is whenever the game cannot revert a budget change to the mean (i.e. automatically setting scouting budget to 15m if anything over would put them over-budget) and the game won't just zero out that budget, instead leaving it at whatever the GM puts in. If OOTP can get a team to even money by decreasing a budget (i.e. a team is $20m over but has a $25m scouting budget), then if the team tries to edit that budget, OOTP will cap it at whatever even money would be (in this case $5m). However, if zeroing a budget would still keep a team in the red (i.e. a team is $10m over budget but has a $5m scouting budget), that team can then increase that scouting budget as much as they like. The threshold is where the "debt" exceeds the budget. We tested this on Twitch here and here. The first video is in OOTP XX and the second is in OOTP 21, so the bug is in both games.

goscottiegogogo · 07-01-2020, 07:33 PM

Are there any updates on this? This is an issue on my league file as well.

Matt Arnold · 07-02-2020, 12:09 PM

Thanks for reporting this, it is certainly something we will look into.

kaykills · 07-09-2020, 09:07 PM

Is there an update on this?

This is fairly easy to reproduce.

Wondering if this is going to get patched.

Thanks!

Lukas Berger · 07-13-2020, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaykills

Is there an update on this?

This is fairly easy to reproduce.

Wondering if this is going to get patched.

Thanks!

The next patch should probably be coming around Opening Day, July 23, more or less.

I'm not 100% sure there will be a fix for this in it, but seems likely.

06-27-2020, 02:10 AM	#1
jspell7575 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 35	No Limit on Budgets When Too Far In Negative Total Money Available I posted this in the OOTP 20 bug report forum as well, but I figured it would get more views here. If a team is slightly in the red and they try to adjust budgets like scouting or dev, it will revert the budgets to whatever gets them under the overall budget. However, if a team is extremely in the red (not sure what the number is, but the number this team is at is 70mil over budget), the game will not automatically bring the budget down or set the budget to zero. Essentially, a team way over budget can still max out scouting and development but a team that is barely over budget cannot. I believe the threshold is whenever the game cannot revert a budget change to the mean (i.e. automatically setting scouting budget to 15m if anything over would put them over-budget) and the game won't just zero out that budget, instead leaving it at whatever the GM puts in. If OOTP can get a team to even money by decreasing a budget (i.e. a team is $20m over but has a $25m scouting budget), then if the team tries to edit that budget, OOTP will cap it at whatever even money would be (in this case $5m). However, if zeroing a budget would still keep a team in the red (i.e. a team is $10m over budget but has a $5m scouting budget), that team can then increase that scouting budget as much as they like. The threshold is where the "debt" exceeds the budget. We tested this on Twitch here and here. The first video is in OOTP XX and the second is in OOTP 21, so the bug is in both games. __________________ Skyline Baseball (California Angels GM 2002 - Present)

07-09-2020, 09:07 PM	#4
kaykills Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 66	Is there an update on this? This is fairly easy to reproduce. Wondering if this is going to get patched. Thanks! __________________ Commissioner : Skyline Baseball League (2005-2032) Los Angeles Dodgers GM : Skyline League (2000-2028) Memphis Blues GM : Skyline League (2030-2032) Colorado Rockies GM : Skyline League (2037-present) Bloordale Benedicts GM : National Dynasty League (2087-present)

07-01-2020, 07:33 PM	#2
goscottiegogogo Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 15	Are there any updates on this? This is an issue on my league file as well.

07-02-2020, 12:09 PM	#3
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,835	Thanks for reporting this, it is certainly something we will look into.