Players miss seasons according to history not working

italyprof · 07-04-2022, 01:01 PM

I am playing a historical league in 1943 now, third season of the league. I have had the "players miss season according to history" on the whole time, and it is still on, and when we got to the end of the 1942 season, a lot of players were listed in red (or pink) as "IR missed season" meaning for the following season, 1943. But as soon as I simmed to the preseason, and now as I am two-three weeks into play for 1943, these players who should miss 1943 are all active. I have sent mine - Dom Dimaggio for example - the Injured list, but the sim insisted I get him off it after 60 days, and so he is now in AAA, where he is playing. Joe Dimaggio, who should miss the season, is instead leading the league in HRs for another team.

How can I fix it before the enitre realistic affect of playing during the war years is lost, messing up a league and save I am enjoying playing and want to keep playing? Thanks.

LansdowneSt · 07-04-2022, 01:05 PM

Any other settings to know before I try to replicate this? Started in 1940? Historical Lineups and transactions off I assume, anything else? Full minors? As much details as you can wrt set-up helps. Thx, I will try to recreate so the reported instances of it are more than one.

luckymann · 07-04-2022, 07:06 PM

Yeah I had some weird goings-on when I simmed using the "retire according to history" setting, with a host of big names retiring after just one season. As soon as I switched it off it worked fine. Perhaps the toggle setting for these are off in some way?

italyprof · 07-04-2022, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Any other settings to know before I try to replicate this? Started in 1940? Historical Lineups and transactions off I assume, anything else? Full minors? As much details as you can wrt set-up helps. Thx, I will try to recreate so the reported instances of it are more than one.

Hi, Thanks. No full minors. Yes I started in 1940. Historical lineups and transactions are off. 3-year recalc with current season weighted extra. Nothing else fancy that I can think of. I do turn off the Automatically expand the league setting. Also the "automatically adjust strategy" is off. Otherwise, nothing I can think of that should be doing this. Maybe I should start playing the guys that are there. That is interesting anyway, but it takes away from the historical authenticity.

LansdowneSt · 07-05-2022, 02:29 PM

I can't seem to recreate this. Tried some various settings but as long as I toggled "miss seasons according to history" in the set-up as I was creating the game.... everyone did...

italyprof · 07-06-2022, 07:28 AM

It's a mystery then. I appreciate all the help. I will just play through, ,as otherwise I am enjoying the save too much to trash it over this detail and just need to get to 1946 to restore order. I hope. And if the career stats include some things that didn't happen historically, so much the better.

mitchkenn · 07-08-2022, 08:13 AM

IF i recall correctly (big IF) - when the feature to have players retire according to history as introduced - it only applied to Major leagues, thus if there were minors in your game set-up - it didn't work correctly. not certain if that still applies, but until (if) there is ever a historical minor league database of players movement/retirements - i am thinking it still won't work perfectly (or correctly)... might be wrong, but that's what i recall.

italyprof · 07-08-2022, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchkenn

IF i recall correctly (big IF) - when the feature to have players retire according to history as introduced - it only applied to Major leagues, thus if there were minors in your game set-up - it didn't work correctly. not certain if that still applies, but until (if) there is ever a historical minor league database of players movement/retirements - i am thinking it still won't work perfectly (or correctly)... might be wrong, but that's what i recall.

So I assume you mean historical minors - no I am not using them. But I am using an AAA, AA and A setup, if that matters.

Here is what is happening, to be more specific, since it happened again for 1944 - the AI tells me that the players missed the season, a whole bunch of them this time. It lists them as being on IL - Injured list. I therefore put them on the Injured List, and when we get to Spring Training, suddenly they are no long listed as having missed the season. Should I not put them on the Injured List? Am I causing this? But then why are players on other teams also playing in years they did not? Why does it recognize players as having missed the season, then suddenly not recognize this fact?

Those of you who have tested this, did you continue through Spring Training and still find them as having missed, with the red colored messages? Or did you not go that far, and maybe it really is a glitch when playing with players missing seasons they missed historically?

I am perplexed. Also because this time I thought it had adjusted itself, and I had worked hard to set up a passable team of those remaining, only to now find the AI telling me I have a whole bunch of regulars that need to be taken off the IL, but who shouldn't be playing in 1944.

LansdowneSt · 07-08-2022, 01:25 PM

Don't put them on the IL manually. The game will do it on its own on the first day of the preseason (Feb 14-ish). Ignore the fact they (or anyone else) are still in your lineup from Jan 1 of 1943 to Feb 14 1943. Here is a picture of how it looks when you let the game make the requisite transaction and this will happen to all the WWII vets.

EDIT: I had the bench coach on and he moved them, trying it with me controlling all the levers...

LansdowneSt · 07-08-2022, 01:43 PM

Well, I moved them manually to the 60-day IL and it still seemed to work. The teams I didn't control had their players out too (Yanks attached). Everyone missing a season is missing the season as they should.

LansdowneSt · 07-08-2022, 01:44 PM

Did you check the "miss seasons according to history" during the game set-up or after the league was made? Trying to think of some variant in the set-up that could account for you having trouble with it...

07-04-2022, 01:01 PM	#1
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,024	Players miss seasons according to history not working I am playing a historical league in 1943 now, third season of the league. I have had the "players miss season according to history" on the whole time, and it is still on, and when we got to the end of the 1942 season, a lot of players were listed in red (or pink) as "IR missed season" meaning for the following season, 1943. But as soon as I simmed to the preseason, and now as I am two-three weeks into play for 1943, these players who should miss 1943 are all active. I have sent mine - Dom Dimaggio for example - the Injured list, but the sim insisted I get him off it after 60 days, and so he is now in AAA, where he is playing. Joe Dimaggio, who should miss the season, is instead leading the league in HRs for another team. How can I fix it before the enitre realistic affect of playing during the war years is lost, messing up a league and save I am enjoying playing and want to keep playing? Thanks.

07-04-2022, 07:06 PM	#3
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 13,022	Yeah I had some weird goings-on when I simmed using the "retire according to history" setting, with a host of big names retiring after just one season. As soon as I switched it off it worked fine. Perhaps the toggle setting for these are off in some way? __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS CUSTOM SAVES ECLIPSE LEAGUE MOON SHOT LEAGUE EVERYMAN LEAGUE GULF LEAGUE USBA

07-08-2022, 08:13 AM	#7
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	IF i recall correctly (big IF) - when the feature to have players retire according to history as introduced - it only applied to Major leagues, thus if there were minors in your game set-up - it didn't work correctly. not certain if that still applies, but until (if) there is ever a historical minor league database of players movement/retirements - i am thinking it still won't work perfectly (or correctly)... might be wrong, but that's what i recall. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

07-08-2022, 01:25 PM	#9
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,172	Don't put them on the IL manually. The game will do it on its own on the first day of the preseason (Feb 14-ish). Ignore the fact they (or anyone else) are still in your lineup from Jan 1 of 1943 to Feb 14 1943. Here is a picture of how it looks when you let the game make the requisite transaction and this will happen to all the WWII vets. EDIT: I had the bench coach on and he moved them, trying it with me controlling all the levers... Attached Images Last edited by LansdowneSt; 07-08-2022 at 01:38 PM.

07-08-2022, 01:43 PM	#10
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,172	Well, I moved them manually to the 60-day IL and it still seemed to work. The teams I didn't control had their players out too (Yanks attached). Everyone missing a season is missing the season as they should. Attached Images

07-04-2022, 01:05 PM	#2
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,172	Any other settings to know before I try to replicate this? Started in 1940? Historical Lineups and transactions off I assume, anything else? Full minors? As much details as you can wrt set-up helps. Thx, I will try to recreate so the reported instances of it are more than one.

07-05-2022, 02:29 PM	#5
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,172	I can't seem to recreate this. Tried some various settings but as long as I toggled "miss seasons according to history" in the set-up as I was creating the game.... everyone did...

07-06-2022, 07:28 AM	#6
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,024	It's a mystery then. I appreciate all the help. I will just play through, ,as otherwise I am enjoying the save too much to trash it over this detail and just need to get to 1946 to restore order. I hope. And if the career stats include some things that didn't happen historically, so much the better.

07-08-2022, 01:44 PM	#11
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,172	Did you check the "miss seasons according to history" during the game set-up or after the league was made? Trying to think of some variant in the set-up that could account for you having trouble with it...