Center's score too much?

lawrence97 · 07-01-2023, 04:23 PM

Is it me or is there a bias towards C's scoring. In all my games the top goalscorers are always C's, i even have teams with a Gretzky/Bure combo, and an Oates/Hull line, and not matter the tactic Oates and Gretzky get 70+ goals and Bure/Hull 100 assists. For interest i switched their positions and this time Hull&Bure were the 70+ goalscorers. I've also checked their goal/passing stats and they should be scoring higher. Is this happening to others? Not so much a bug, but it is unrealistic.

lawrence97 · 07-01-2023, 04:32 PM

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#4BobbyOrr · 07-02-2023, 06:41 AM

Are you using the 2D or classic engine? I find the classic engine generates much more realistic results.

tomkmb · 07-02-2023, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by #4BobbyOrr

Are you using the 2D or classic engine? I find the classic engine generates much more realistic results.

Just to tack onto that, I find that there are always statistical differences with the default settings because it uses 1 engine for your game and the other engine for all of the other games, which also results in the strange elevated numbers of giveaways/takeaways that people mention about in their saves for their team vs everyone else. Perhaps this is another of those.

lawrence97 · 07-02-2023, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by #4BobbyOrr

Are you using the 2D or classic engine? I find the classic engine generates much more realistic results.

These simulations are done with 2D, I'll run some on classic to see what happens.

lawrence97 · 07-02-2023, 02:58 PM

Yeah massive difference, power play chances per year are correct(usually get 1/2 the powers plays other teams do per year), gretzky doesn't have 25 shorthanded goals a year(or a .33 shooing average) . gls/assit ratio look bang on and 3/4th line scoring is down(realisitc but a shame as i enjoyed getting 900+ gls a season).

Going to run a few simulations with different tactics to see what difference those make, but thanks for you help.

Swedishgamefreak · 07-02-2023, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrence97

These simulations are done with 2D, I'll run some on classic to see what happens.

Yeah I noticed the exact same thing in my saves with the 2D engine. :/
They still have to balance it a bit. The defensemen doesn't put up the same kind of numbers too. Makar had like 65 points in 2D while in classic mode he has like 80-85 points.

lawrence97 · 07-02-2023, 05:04 PM

Yeah if you sim every game in 2d, goalscoring goes crazy, I did one with the rules set to goal average of 8, and and the teams were averaging a tick under 10 after the SIM. I don't mind the higher scoring, even if 60 players get to 100 pts, just want the penalty minutes and goal/assist ratio correct. Classic is absolutely fine, I just miss the ability of getting 13+ players over 100pts which is what I enjoy doing

07-01-2023, 04:23 PM	#1
lawrence97 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 188	Center's score too much? Is it me or is there a bias towards C's scoring. In all my games the top goalscorers are always C's, i even have teams with a Gretzky/Bure combo, and an Oates/Hull line, and not matter the tactic Oates and Gretzky get 70+ goals and Bure/Hull 100 assists. For interest i switched their positions and this time Hull&Bure were the 70+ goalscorers. I've also checked their goal/passing stats and they should be scoring higher. Is this happening to others? Not so much a bug, but it is unrealistic.

07-01-2023, 04:32 PM	#2
lawrence97 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 188	Numbers: Attached Images

07-02-2023, 06:41 AM	#3
#4BobbyOrr Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 151	Are you using the 2D or classic engine? I find the classic engine generates much more realistic results.

07-02-2023, 02:58 PM	#6
lawrence97 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 188	Yeah massive difference, power play chances per year are correct(usually get 1/2 the powers plays other teams do per year), gretzky doesn't have 25 shorthanded goals a year(or a .33 shooing average) . gls/assit ratio look bang on and 3/4th line scoring is down(realisitc but a shame as i enjoyed getting 900+ gls a season). Going to run a few simulations with different tactics to see what difference those make, but thanks for you help.

07-02-2023, 05:04 PM	#8
lawrence97 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 188	Yeah if you sim every game in 2d, goalscoring goes crazy, I did one with the rules set to goal average of 8, and and the teams were averaging a tick under 10 after the SIM. I don't mind the higher scoring, even if 60 players get to 100 pts, just want the penalty minutes and goal/assist ratio correct. Classic is absolutely fine, I just miss the ability of getting 13+ players over 100pts which is what I enjoy doing