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Old 04-03-2025, 09:07 AM   #1
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OOTP has given me nothing

OOTP has given me NOTHING after two years of hard work. I know you don’t care about me personally, but think about this. The OOTP staff has dozens of people do tons of work for them beta testing, then when they finish their work, OOTP doesn’t share any of the revenue with them.
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:09 AM   #2
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And they have the nerve to have performance standards in their beta testing. If you don’t submit enough bug reports, you won’t be able to do beta testing the next year. Oh darn- you mean I won’t have to do any work, but my salary will be cut from zero to zero?
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:23 AM   #3
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I can understand them wanting more bug reports. Especially after the 25 disaster.

Mods, please don't lock these threads. Complaining is not against the rules. Censorship is to benefit those who fear the facts.
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:27 AM   #4
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The OOTP staff has dozens of people do tons of work for them beta testing, then when they finish their work, OOTP doesn’t share any of the revenue with them.

Could you point me in the direction of the companies who give a share of revenues to beta testers, I'd quite like to sign up
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:28 AM   #5
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It's a volunteer position. That's not a secret when anyone signs up. You beta tested for two years before you figured out how it works?

I think it would be fair to say most beta testers do it for the game. They love being involved and that is their reward.

It's not about you.

To the beta testers that read this thread..

THANK YOU for all the time and effort you put into the game. I wish I had the patience to do what you do, but I don't.
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:28 AM   #6
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OOTP has given me NOTHING after two years of hard work. I know you don’t care about me personally, but think about this. The OOTP staff has dozens of people do tons of work for them beta testing, then when they finish their work, OOTP doesn’t share any of the revenue with them.
If you weren't promised any compensation at the outset, and don't find value in the prospect of improving a game you appreciate, I'm not sure why you would have expected something. This was your choice.
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:30 AM   #7
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This seems like a strange place to complain about wage disparity.
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:32 AM   #8
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If you weren't promised any compensation at the outset, and don't find value in the prospect of improving a game you appreciate, I'm not sure why you would have expected something. This was your choice.
Seems to me that most beta testers and others close to the company find the prestige of being assumed knowledgeable and the adulation of much of the public to be sufficient compensation.
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:44 AM   #9
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Seems to me that most beta testers and others close to the company find the prestige of being assumed knowledgeable and the adulation of much of the public to be sufficient compensation.
Adulation of the public? Give me a break.
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Adulation of the public? Give me a break.
You mean the public doesn't consider those close to the company extra knowledgeable? That those close to the company don't get reprimanded by moderators? Did they somehow not tell you about that special club?
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Old 04-03-2025, 09:54 AM   #11
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OOTP has given me NOTHING after two years of hard work. I know you don’t care about me personally, but think about this. The OOTP staff has dozens of people do tons of work for them beta testing, then when they finish their work, OOTP doesn’t share any of the revenue with them.
So you want them to pay you?
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Mods! Did you delete the other threads or hide them somewhere?

C'mon. His posts are harmless to OOTP and the responses show the public is enjoying them.
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:14 AM   #13
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Mods! Did you delete the other threads or hide them somewhere?

C'mon. His posts are harmless to OOTP and the responses show the public is enjoying them.
Maybe harmless, definitely a bit deranged and with an axe to grind. At least they provided a bit of entertainment, but they were always going to be deleted.
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:21 AM   #14
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Maybe harmless, definitely a bit deranged and with an axe to grind. At least they provided a bit of entertainment, but they were always going to be deleted.
Censoring things that are harmless makes it look like the censor fears they have merit.

I think the posts would have been great for the first forum on the board.
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:22 AM   #15
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Should have put it in one thread instead of spamming the boards. Those enjoying it could keep up in one place.
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:22 AM   #16
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Censoring things that are harmless makes it look like the censor fears they have merit.

I think the posts would have been great for the first forum on the board.
He threatened suicide in one of the posts.
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:24 AM   #17
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Censoring things that are harmless makes it look like the censor fears they have merit.

I think the posts would have been great for the first forum on the board.
They were probably deleted since the so called "judge" posted about 8 or 9 threads in like 5 mins, not because the "censor" fears they have merit
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:25 AM   #18
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He threatened suicide in one of the posts.
Did anyone ask for a welfare check?
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:26 AM   #19
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Should have put it in one thread instead of spamming the boards. Those enjoying it could keep up in one place.
I reported spam when I was first on the board and was told it wasn't against the rules. Even got a strike for false reporting.
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Old 04-03-2025, 10:58 AM   #20
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Mods! Did you delete the other threads or hide them somewhere?

C'mon. His posts are harmless to OOTP and the responses show the public is enjoying them.
I don't think it was a mod. I can't even see the missing threads and if it was a mod I think I could see them.
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