Begging the Devs

TrapperJohn · 03-11-2025, 10:13 PM

... Is there *any* way to edit the school/commit school/HS v. college fields of the draft pool via an importable CSV? I've tried everything — even struck out attempting to hex-edit the players.dat file.

Because this apparently can't be done, it prevents the OOTP community from creating and sharing custom draft classes.

I've compiled detailed real-life classes covering over 16,000 real-life draft prospects who will be eligible over the next few years (not as insane as it sounds — it's easy to pull data from PerfectGame, et al.). But neither I nor anyone else can use them in-game if there's no way to mass-edit school info via CSV — if you import without that feature, everyone is randomly assigned to the wrong school and class year, wrecking the appeal.

Understanding you guys have a ton on your plate, I'm hoping there's some way to tweak it so that the school/commit school/HS or college fields can be part of the normal draft pool import/export function. It would be huge for immersion, and would provide a great opportunity for dedicated players to improve upon the game’s built-in draft classes (which, respectfully, are often missing a lot of prominent prospects, including first-round talents). Either way, I greatly appreciate all of the work you guys put in. Thanks for considering!

twins_34 · 03-12-2025, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TrapperJohn

... Is there *any* way to edit the school/commit school/HS v. college fields of the draft pool via an importable CSV? I've tried everything — even struck out attempting to hex-edit the players.dat file.

Because this apparently can't be done, it prevents the OOTP community from creating and sharing custom draft classes.

I've compiled detailed real-life classes covering over 16,000 real-life draft prospects who will be eligible over the next few years (not as insane as it sounds — it's easy to pull data from PerfectGame, et al.). But neither I nor anyone else can use them in-game if there's no way to mass-edit school info via CSV — if you import without that feature, everyone is randomly assigned to the wrong school and class year, wrecking the appeal.

Understanding you guys have a ton on your plate, I'm hoping there's some way to tweak it so that the school/commit school/HS or college fields can be part of the normal draft pool import/export function. It would be huge for immersion, and would provide a great opportunity for dedicated players to improve upon the game’s built-in draft classes (which, respectfully, are often missing a lot of prominent prospects, including first-round talents). Either way, I greatly appreciate all of the work you guys put in. Thanks for considering!

The way it is now, to even do draft classes, you need to make a draft class in your game, edit the player names, and do all that work, and them import it back into your game WITHOUT editing the player ID's and you can't add ID's and you for sure can't share them across saves either for other people.

It would be really cool if this could become something that could be modded in the future though.

TrapperJohn · 03-12-2025, 08:38 AM

The get-around for that is to go to the 'all players' screen and create fictional players who are eligible for the next draft — that is, if I want a draft class of 5,000, but the base class is only 2,000, I generate 3,000 new fictional players (essentially creating them just to use their IDs). Then I export the draft class of 2,000 real and 3,000 fake players to a CSV, and copy and paste 5,000 real players from my preexisting spreadsheet (which has all of the ratings I've tweaked for them, their real birthdates and hometowns and whatnot, et al.), overwriting every field except for the ID.

Re-import that CSV, and boom — I've got an accurate draft class of 5,000. Only problem is, now Ethan Holliday is an 18-year-old redshirt college senior at South Central Vermont Tech. If the devs were able to make school, commit school, and HS/College status editable fields in the import CSV the way that everything else about the player is editable, it would be easy to upload and share robust draft classes within the OOTP community. Would do for the draft what CBL's excellent rosters do for the base roster set — a deep, immersive upgrade at no cost to the devs.

Lukas Berger · 03-12-2025, 08:54 AM

I would think this should be doable, but probably not till things slow down a little. Remind me in a couple weeks and we can see.

TrapperJohn · 03-12-2025, 09:58 AM

Really appreciate that, Lukas!

spartacus007 · 03-12-2025, 10:00 AM

That would be awesome, TrapperJohn! I'm loving college baseball here in SEC country.

Bobfather · 03-12-2025, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spartacus007

That would be awesome, TrapperJohn! I'm loving college baseball here in SEC country.

But what does Hawkeye and Radar think?

Matt Arnold · 03-12-2025, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobfather

But what does Hawkeye and Radar think?

Radar definitely would have played OOTP if it existed back then. He'd have his jersey files ready to go right from launch day.

jksander · 03-12-2025, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Radar definitely would have played OOTP if it existed back then. He'd have his jersey files ready to go right from launch day.

He would have been an expert on KBO play as well, you just know it ...

Bobfather · 03-12-2025, 05:29 PM

Klinger would be the KBO expert. I feel sorry for those who don't get these references. And for hijacking this thread.

jeffw3000 · 03-13-2025, 05:31 AM

Klinger was not even an MILB expert, as he never knew his Mud Hens moved to Charleston while he was in Korea.

jcard · 03-13-2025, 06:29 AM

Little before my time, but wasn’t there an episode where there betting on games that the staff was getting on tape delay, but Frank was listening to game broadcasts surreptitiously and subsequently cleaning up with his advanced knowledge? Then Hawkeye and Honeycutt either make up a taped broadcast or do it live with important details reversed, and dupe Frank into thinking he is listening to the actual game call.

Bunktown Ballers · 03-13-2025, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by spartacus007

That would be awesome, TrapperJohn! I'm loving college baseball here in SEC country.

SEC baseball is the Gold Standard....PERIOD

TrapperJohn · 04-04-2025, 11:00 AM

Hey Lukas — any update here?

TrapperJohn · 04-09-2025, 12:37 PM

Hey Lukas — just re-upping this request per your note above, in case things have slowed down slightly (maybe?) and it's possible to implement. Would love to build and share expanded, accurate draft classes with the community that can move from save to save. Thanks!

TrapperJohn · 04-14-2025, 06:44 PM

Bumping this for Lukas — thanks for taking a look if you get a chance!

whaleheader · 04-17-2025, 02:59 PM

Yes, please!

The four biggest pieces of information that would be nice to update for immersion are (in order of priority) schools, injury ratings, draft lists for online leagues (to incorporate into draft spreadsheets and so StatsPlus can incorporate them into their drafts), and draft slot information (just being able to export would be enough).

We draft one year delayed (2024 MLB drafted players were just drafted). I can line up the college/high school/juco mix but there is no way to associate players with their real schools.

I know the devs would like more accurate injury ratings. Opening up the process for modders might fill the void.

StatsPlus does a great job overall but OOTP's draft lists are far superior.

Thanks in advance!

OutS|der · 04-17-2025, 10:10 PM

exporting players should give us every editable option, including schools, personality and anything else that doesn't expect

whaleheader · 04-18-2025, 08:02 AM

One more export ask...it would be nice to be able to export the Pipeline lists to csv too.

Thanks.

JerseyDan421 · 04-18-2025, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TrapperJohn

Hey Lukas — just re-upping this request per your note above, in case things have slowed down slightly (maybe?) and it's possible to implement. Would love to build and share expanded, accurate draft classes with the community that can move from save to save. Thanks!

If this were to ever happen, I would be so excited

03-11-2025, 10:13 PM	#1
TrapperJohn Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 252	Begging the Devs ... Is there any way to edit the school/commit school/HS v. college fields of the draft pool via an importable CSV? I've tried everything — even struck out attempting to hex-edit the players.dat file. Because this apparently can't be done, it prevents the OOTP community from creating and sharing custom draft classes. I've compiled detailed real-life classes covering over 16,000 real-life draft prospects who will be eligible over the next few years (not as insane as it sounds — it's easy to pull data from PerfectGame, et al.). But neither I nor anyone else can use them in-game if there's no way to mass-edit school info via CSV — if you import without that feature, everyone is randomly assigned to the wrong school and class year, wrecking the appeal. Understanding you guys have a ton on your plate, I'm hoping there's some way to tweak it so that the school/commit school/HS or college fields can be part of the normal draft pool import/export function. It would be huge for immersion, and would provide a great opportunity for dedicated players to improve upon the game’s built-in draft classes (which, respectfully, are often missing a lot of prominent prospects, including first-round talents). Either way, I greatly appreciate all of the work you guys put in. Thanks for considering!

03-12-2025, 08:54 AM	#4
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,359	I would think this should be doable, but probably not till things slow down a little. Remind me in a couple weeks and we can see. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com PreOrder Out of the Park Baseball 26! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

03-12-2025, 10:00 AM	#6
spartacus007 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 262	That would be awesome, TrapperJohn! I'm loving college baseball here in SEC country. __________________

03-12-2025, 05:29 PM	#10
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,619	Klinger would be the KBO expert. I feel sorry for those who don't get these references. And for hijacking this thread. __________________ I play out every game—one pitch mode.

04-04-2025, 11:00 AM	#14
TrapperJohn Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 252	Hey Lukas — any update here? Last edited by TrapperJohn; 04-09-2025 at 12:37 PM.

03-12-2025, 08:38 AM	#3
TrapperJohn Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 252	The get-around for that is to go to the 'all players' screen and create fictional players who are eligible for the next draft — that is, if I want a draft class of 5,000, but the base class is only 2,000, I generate 3,000 new fictional players (essentially creating them just to use their IDs). Then I export the draft class of 2,000 real and 3,000 fake players to a CSV, and copy and paste 5,000 real players from my preexisting spreadsheet (which has all of the ratings I've tweaked for them, their real birthdates and hometowns and whatnot, et al.), overwriting every field except for the ID. Re-import that CSV, and boom — I've got an accurate draft class of 5,000. Only problem is, now Ethan Holliday is an 18-year-old redshirt college senior at South Central Vermont Tech. If the devs were able to make school, commit school, and HS/College status editable fields in the import CSV the way that everything else about the player is editable, it would be easy to upload and share robust draft classes within the OOTP community. Would do for the draft what CBL's excellent rosters do for the base roster set — a deep, immersive upgrade at no cost to the devs.

03-12-2025, 09:58 AM	#5
TrapperJohn Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 252	Really appreciate that, Lukas!

03-13-2025, 05:31 AM	#11
jeffw3000 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 314	Klinger was not even an MILB expert, as he never knew his Mud Hens moved to Charleston while he was in Korea.

03-13-2025, 06:29 AM	#12
jcard All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 593 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Little before my time, but wasn’t there an episode where there betting on games that the staff was getting on tape delay, but Frank was listening to game broadcasts surreptitiously and subsequently cleaning up with his advanced knowledge? Then Hawkeye and Honeycutt either make up a taped broadcast or do it live with important details reversed, and dupe Frank into thinking he is listening to the actual game call.

04-09-2025, 12:37 PM	#15
TrapperJohn Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 252	Hey Lukas — just re-upping this request per your note above, in case things have slowed down slightly (maybe?) and it's possible to implement. Would love to build and share expanded, accurate draft classes with the community that can move from save to save. Thanks!

04-14-2025, 06:44 PM	#16
TrapperJohn Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 252	Bumping this for Lukas — thanks for taking a look if you get a chance!

04-17-2025, 02:59 PM	#17
whaleheader Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 294	Yes, please! The four biggest pieces of information that would be nice to update for immersion are (in order of priority) schools, injury ratings, draft lists for online leagues (to incorporate into draft spreadsheets and so StatsPlus can incorporate them into their drafts), and draft slot information (just being able to export would be enough). We draft one year delayed (2024 MLB drafted players were just drafted). I can line up the college/high school/juco mix but there is no way to associate players with their real schools. I know the devs would like more accurate injury ratings. Opening up the process for modders might fill the void. StatsPlus does a great job overall but OOTP's draft lists are far superior. Thanks in advance!

04-17-2025, 10:10 PM	#18
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,697 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	exporting players should give us every editable option, including schools, personality and anything else that doesn't expect

04-18-2025, 08:02 AM	#19
whaleheader Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 294	One more export ask...it would be nice to be able to export the Pipeline lists to csv too. Thanks.