FA to be Offers - rejected

JimiP · 09-09-2003, 11:29 PM

So far this year in the WTL - players who are going to be FA's have made requests for 'X' amount of dollars - whenoffered that amount they then say - either i want 'x=y' amount or if its the second offer from owner they say 'this isnt going anywhere - i'llplay somewhere else next year'.....
its been an epidemic - is there a bug or something - i've made all the updates, patches etc., didnt happen last year ---
what gives - my owners are quite 'perturbed' and i'm going crazy listening to their moans !

any thoughts ??

Steve Kuffrey · 09-09-2003, 11:35 PM

No, issues of this sort. I know that if I WANT to keep a player I normally will go above his asking price just to be safe. Tell your owner's to stop "low-balling" the players

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JimiP · 09-10-2003, 09:31 AM

Well that was my thought -
but on several occasions they did offer the player what they were asking - and the player told them to 'read between the lines', or something to the effect of 'this is going nowhere , i'll play in hell first before ever playing for you again.
so it seems like they've been quick to bail...but i did tell them not to be tryin to play cheap on their players....

Alan T · 09-10-2003, 11:19 AM

I actually have seen this more with the latest patches.. both in online leagues, my solo leagues and on the forums from other owners.. I think there is some instance that a player asks for X and even if it is offered, they turn you down. Does not happen all the time or often from what I can see, but when it does, it tends to piss people off...

sporr · 09-10-2003, 11:27 AM

There are occassions that a player asks for a specific amount and turns you down if you offer it. In these cases, you can up your offer by about $50K or so and the player will accept. I always assumed it was a rounding issue with the game engine.

RayofHope · 09-10-2003, 05:36 PM

I thought it may be something to do with the switch in time period we went through?

I dunno, my guys seem to be pretty happy playing for me . . .

29 year-old Al Simmons wanted $11,690,000 for a two year extension (a lot, yeah, but he was already making $11,685,000, so it wasn't a big raise) . . . first offer I sent him was what he wanted ($11.69 million) but I offered 4 years . . . he snapped it up.

Probably just jinxed myself though - SP George Earnshaw says he wants $2.8 mil for 3 years . . . maybe I'll offer him $2.85.

Rube Walberg says he'll probably test the market, but to make an offer anyway . . . never like it when they say that to start negotiations.

IatricSB · 09-10-2003, 06:51 PM

Agree with Sporr... in my last negotiations (for QBA), I would make my 1st offer lower than what they asked, but my 2nd offer was always for slightly more than they asked... So a guy says 3 yrs at 2.19 Million, I might offer him 1.75 with the first offer, but my 2nd offer would either be 2.2 or usually more like 2.25 Some would accept the first but everyone at least accepted the 2nd and I didn't get bit by offering exactly what he wanted and getting turned down and losing him.

09-09-2003, 11:29 PM	#1
JimiP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lowcountry SC Posts: 226	FA to be Offers - rejected So far this year in the WTL - players who are going to be FA's have made requests for 'X' amount of dollars - whenoffered that amount they then say - either i want 'x=y' amount or if its the second offer from owner they say 'this isnt going anywhere - i'llplay somewhere else next year'..... its been an epidemic - is there a bug or something - i've made all the updates, patches etc., didnt happen last year --- what gives - my owners are quite 'perturbed' and i'm going crazy listening to their moans ! any thoughts ?? __________________ Love, Peace & Chicken Grease, chef jimiP

09-09-2003, 11:35 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	No, issues of this sort. I know that if I WANT to keep a player I normally will go above his asking price just to be safe. Tell your owner's to stop "low-balling" the players . __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-10-2003, 09:31 AM	#3
JimiP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lowcountry SC Posts: 226	Low-Ballin / Hi Rollin' Well that was my thought - but on several occasions they did offer the player what they were asking - and the player told them to 'read between the lines', or something to the effect of 'this is going nowhere , i'll play in hell first before ever playing for you again. so it seems like they've been quick to bail...but i did tell them not to be tryin to play cheap on their players.... __________________ Love, Peace & Chicken Grease, chef jimiP

09-10-2003, 11:19 AM	#4
Alan T All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass. Posts: 1,963	I actually have seen this more with the latest patches.. both in online leagues, my solo leagues and on the forums from other owners.. I think there is some instance that a player asks for X and even if it is offered, they turn you down. Does not happen all the time or often from what I can see, but when it does, it tends to piss people off... __________________ - Front Office Offseason League. (Fast Paced OOTP-X and OOTP11 leagues, sims one season every week)

09-10-2003, 05:36 PM	#6
RayofHope Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 275	Era related? I thought it may be something to do with the switch in time period we went through? I dunno, my guys seem to be pretty happy playing for me . . . 29 year-old Al Simmons wanted $11,690,000 for a two year extension (a lot, yeah, but he was already making $11,685,000, so it wasn't a big raise) . . . first offer I sent him was what he wanted ($11.69 million) but I offered 4 years . . . he snapped it up. Probably just jinxed myself though - SP George Earnshaw says he wants $2.8 mil for 3 years . . . maybe I'll offer him $2.85. Rube Walberg says he'll probably test the market, but to make an offer anyway . . . never like it when they say that to start negotiations.

09-10-2003, 11:27 AM	#5
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	There are occassions that a player asks for a specific amount and turns you down if you offer it. In these cases, you can up your offer by about $50K or so and the player will accept. I always assumed it was a rounding issue with the game engine.

09-10-2003, 06:51 PM	#7
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	Re: Era related? Agree with Sporr... in my last negotiations (for QBA), I would make my 1st offer lower than what they asked, but my 2nd offer was always for slightly more than they asked... So a guy says 3 yrs at 2.19 Million, I might offer him 1.75 with the first offer, but my 2nd offer would either be 2.2 or usually more like 2.25 Some would accept the first but everyone at least accepted the 2nd and I didn't get bit by offering exactly what he wanted and getting turned down and losing him. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards