Are you experiencing lots of crashes?

Marc Duffy · 06-02-2006, 07:16 AM

Since it seems some people have a lot of crashes and some have none, I'm looking to pinpoint a common theme with the crashes vs system spec and setup

if you have a crash

1. Tell me how you can make the game crash
2. Tell me about your system, processor type, speed, ram, graphics card etc
3. Make sure you can get the crash to repeatable state in a save game (this helps if we need to grab the save game because we cannot crash it!)

Marlinfan · 06-02-2006, 08:24 AM

Right Marc, I've tried this 4 times already, I'm the Florida Marlins playing Los Angeles Dodgers.

My game crashes every time top of the 1st, 1st pitch.

I have tried this is on both, SION Broadcast & SION Webcast, same problem.

I've managed to save my game on that day, so if you need me to send you my save game file it wont be a problem & you can get straight to the problem.

My computer specifications are as follows.

AMD Athlon(tm) 64x2 Dual Core 4400+, 2.20 GHz
1.93 GB Ram
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series,
ATI Radeon X300/X550 series,
2 x 300gb harddrive, the one I'm using has 269gb free space.

Monitor resolution - 1280 x 1024

If you need to know anything else, just let me know, I'll be glad to help.

Daz

Marc Duffy · 06-02-2006, 08:28 AM

Just hearing the words AMD here makes me wonder and takes me back to some old CM bugs with that processor chip.

Please send me the file marc _ duffy at sigames . com

Marlinfan · 06-02-2006, 08:30 AM

ok Marc, sending it you now.

Hope you aren't hinting for me to buy a new processor

Marc Duffy · 06-02-2006, 08:31 AM

Nope. we'll have to do some debugging on AMD machines!

battists · 06-02-2006, 08:42 AM

I'm hopeful we'll be able to work through this. Like Marc said, it seems to affect some people but not others, which makes some sort of conflict suspicious. I took a few minutes this morning and tried everything listed in the earlier threads about this, and I can't get the damn thing to crash.

It would be great if you could get Marc the saved game. It will be very telling to find out if the same game crashes on one of the "non-crashy" computers.

Thanks for your patience, everyone.

Marlinfan · 06-02-2006, 08:43 AM

Marc, I've tried using winrar to compress it & it's still too big, any ideas?

The file zipped is 23mb

I can send it via AIM if you like, my AIM is marlins711

Erik W. · 06-02-2006, 08:44 AM

I was going to say that I have an AMD machine and I've had no crashes. But then I remembered that my computer is piled in the corner of our spare room and that this is my fiancée's Intel machine I'm sharing.

Actually, I have had one crash. I'm actually about to try to replicate it. I started a league with no minors affiliated and a pre-season amateur draft. I set the league to sim 10 seasons for history, and while I was browsing the web, I got a "Player not drafted!" error on a loop. So I had to hardkill the game. When I came back to it, it was in January of the second year of the league, and continued on normally... except that it no longer held an amateur draft during the simming, despite being set for one. It kept setting the date of the draft as being one year away from that date.

That's my one crash, if you want to count a hardkill as a crash.

I suppose I'll put this in a proper post of its own if I can get it to do the same thing again.

jdettbarn · 06-02-2006, 08:48 AM

I have AMD and no crashes at all.

(I am pretty sure it is an AMD 3200+ 64-bit processor.)

It actually runs much faster than OOTP6.5 too.

Marlinfan · 06-02-2006, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

I'm hopeful we'll be able to work through this. Like Marc said, it seems to affect some people but not others, which makes some sort of conflict suspicious. I took a few minutes this morning and tried everything listed in the earlier threads about this, and I can't get the damn thing to crash.

It would be great if you could get Marc the saved game. It will be very telling to find out if the same game crashes on one of the "non-crashy" computers.

Thanks for your patience, everyone.

This is the 2nd time I've had one of my games to crash but if I can help get it fixed then great, I'll happily help out in any way possible.

redmarkYankees · 06-02-2006, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdettbarn

I have AMD and no crashes at all.

Me too; I think I've seen an Intel dual core crash report - this is an AMD dual core...?

metspr · 06-02-2006, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlinfan

Marc, I've tried using winrar to compress it & it's still too big, any ideas?

The file zipped is 23mb

I can send it via AIM if you like, my AIM is marlins711

Erase Box Scores, Emails, Log Games.

Marlinfan · 06-02-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metspr

Erase Box Scores, Emails, Log Games.

Perfect, thanks.

Sending now Marc

Marc Duffy · 06-02-2006, 09:14 AM

Ok! Cool!

zuty · 06-02-2006, 09:17 AM

I'm doing a fictional league and just messing around with things to see what I can do.

I just changed a team's city (and abbreviation) from Kings County Kings (KCK) to Genovese Kings (GEN).

First the game crashed (three times) when I tried to sim a season. So I tried simming day-by-day, and had no problem.

Now I've simmed into the next year, but when I go to view the reports, and specifically go to "History", I crash again. Every time.

I'm running:
Windows XP Service Pack 2
Dell Dimension 8400
Pentium 4 (3.4 GHz)
2.0 GB of RAM
ATI Radeon X800 SE

Help?

zuty · 06-02-2006, 09:58 AM

I seem to be able to create this "History" bug a bunch.

After creating a league, if I add a division and/or move teams from one division to another, the "History Bug" begins. That is -- from this point forward, the game crashes whenever I try to view the "History" page from the SION report site.

I launched the reports in an external browser, and from there, I can actually get to the right page, but it is not complete. The HTML ends partway through the page, and there is no history of the league there whatsoever.

And something about this HTML (maybe that it's incomplete?) is leading to OOTP2006.exe's repeated crashes.

Is there something I don't know? Like -- you're not supposed to do X, Y, Z when moving teams from one division to another?

This severely limits what I was hoping to do with this game. I enjoy creating fictional universes to rebuild the history of baseball. This obviously requires expansion and relocation of teams. While the game seems as if it supports this sort of thing, the fact that it's crashing so easily seems to be a bit of a problem.

Please help...

Marlinfan · 06-02-2006, 10:03 AM

Marc, I had a little trouble with my e-mail server, which is why it took so long but you should have it now.

Hope this helps you to fix the game.

Daz

Comedian2004 · 06-02-2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

Nope. we'll have to do some debugging on AMD machines!

AMD machine here with no crashes...

Skipaway · 06-03-2006, 01:30 PM

XP SP2 on this machine:
http://www.cworld.com.au/info.php?ID=112756

The crash just happens everywhere. You don't really need a save file from me, since even the quickstart can crash.

Milo · 06-03-2006, 02:28 PM

Marc I get a crash to desktop everytime I hit the action button, or right click on a player (ie to try and resign him)

My system specs are intel 2.6 p4 with a raedon 9000 graphics card with 2 gigs of ram
Thanks milo

06-02-2006, 07:16 AM	#1
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	Are you experiencing lots of crashes? Since it seems some people have a lot of crashes and some have none, I'm looking to pinpoint a common theme with the crashes vs system spec and setup if you have a crash 1. Tell me how you can make the game crash 2. Tell me about your system, processor type, speed, ram, graphics card etc 3. Make sure you can get the crash to repeatable state in a save game (this helps if we need to grab the save game because we cannot crash it!)

06-02-2006, 08:24 AM	#2
Marlinfan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 110	Right Marc, I've tried this 4 times already, I'm the Florida Marlins playing Los Angeles Dodgers. My game crashes every time top of the 1st, 1st pitch. I have tried this is on both, SION Broadcast & SION Webcast, same problem. I've managed to save my game on that day, so if you need me to send you my save game file it wont be a problem & you can get straight to the problem. My computer specifications are as follows. AMD Athlon(tm) 64x2 Dual Core 4400+, 2.20 GHz 1.93 GB Ram ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series, ATI Radeon X300/X550 series, 2 x 300gb harddrive, the one I'm using has 269gb free space. Monitor resolution - 1280 x 1024 If you need to know anything else, just let me know, I'll be glad to help. Daz Last edited by Marlinfan; 06-02-2006 at 08:29 AM.

06-02-2006, 08:43 AM	#7
Marlinfan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 110	Marc, I've tried using winrar to compress it & it's still too big, any ideas? The file zipped is 23mb I can send it via AIM if you like, my AIM is marlins711 Last edited by Marlinfan; 06-02-2006 at 08:51 AM.

06-02-2006, 08:44 AM	#8
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	I was going to say that I have an AMD machine and I've had no crashes. But then I remembered that my computer is piled in the corner of our spare room and that this is my fiancée's Intel machine I'm sharing. Actually, I have had one crash. I'm actually about to try to replicate it. I started a league with no minors affiliated and a pre-season amateur draft. I set the league to sim 10 seasons for history, and while I was browsing the web, I got a "Player not drafted!" error on a loop. So I had to hardkill the game. When I came back to it, it was in January of the second year of the league, and continued on normally... except that it no longer held an amateur draft during the simming, despite being set for one. It kept setting the date of the draft as being one year away from that date. That's my one crash, if you want to count a hardkill as a crash. I suppose I'll put this in a proper post of its own if I can get it to do the same thing again. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

06-02-2006, 08:48 AM	#9
jdettbarn All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 635	I have AMD and no crashes at all. (I am pretty sure it is an AMD 3200+ 64-bit processor.) It actually runs much faster than OOTP6.5 too. __________________ NPBL Idaho Spuds GM Former Federal Baseball League and JOBL Commish (2002 - 2011)

06-02-2006, 08:28 AM	#3
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	Just hearing the words AMD here makes me wonder and takes me back to some old CM bugs with that processor chip. Please send me the file marc _ duffy at sigames . com

06-02-2006, 08:30 AM	#4
Marlinfan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 110	ok Marc, sending it you now. Hope you aren't hinting for me to buy a new processor

06-02-2006, 08:31 AM	#5
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	Nope. we'll have to do some debugging on AMD machines!

06-02-2006, 08:42 AM	#6
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	I'm hopeful we'll be able to work through this. Like Marc said, it seems to affect some people but not others, which makes some sort of conflict suspicious. I took a few minutes this morning and tried everything listed in the earlier threads about this, and I can't get the damn thing to crash. It would be great if you could get Marc the saved game. It will be very telling to find out if the same game crashes on one of the "non-crashy" computers. Thanks for your patience, everyone.

06-02-2006, 09:14 AM	#14
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	Ok! Cool!

06-02-2006, 09:17 AM	#15
zuty Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 173	I'm doing a fictional league and just messing around with things to see what I can do. I just changed a team's city (and abbreviation) from Kings County Kings (KCK) to Genovese Kings (GEN). First the game crashed (three times) when I tried to sim a season. So I tried simming day-by-day, and had no problem. Now I've simmed into the next year, but when I go to view the reports, and specifically go to "History", I crash again. Every time. I'm running: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Dell Dimension 8400 Pentium 4 (3.4 GHz) 2.0 GB of RAM ATI Radeon X800 SE Help?

06-02-2006, 09:58 AM	#16
zuty Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 173	I seem to be able to create this "History" bug a bunch. After creating a league, if I add a division and/or move teams from one division to another, the "History Bug" begins. That is -- from this point forward, the game crashes whenever I try to view the "History" page from the SION report site. I launched the reports in an external browser, and from there, I can actually get to the right page, but it is not complete. The HTML ends partway through the page, and there is no history of the league there whatsoever. And something about this HTML (maybe that it's incomplete?) is leading to OOTP2006.exe's repeated crashes. Is there something I don't know? Like -- you're not supposed to do X, Y, Z when moving teams from one division to another? This severely limits what I was hoping to do with this game. I enjoy creating fictional universes to rebuild the history of baseball. This obviously requires expansion and relocation of teams. While the game seems as if it supports this sort of thing, the fact that it's crashing so easily seems to be a bit of a problem. Please help... Last edited by zuty; 06-02-2006 at 10:01 AM.

06-02-2006, 10:03 AM	#17
Marlinfan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 110	Marc, I had a little trouble with my e-mail server, which is why it took so long but you should have it now. Hope this helps you to fix the game. Daz

06-03-2006, 01:30 PM	#19
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	XP SP2 on this machine: http://www.cworld.com.au/info.php?ID=112756 The crash just happens everywhere. You don't really need a save file from me, since even the quickstart can crash. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

06-03-2006, 02:28 PM	#20
Milo Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Calgary Posts: 35	Marc I get a crash to desktop everytime I hit the action button, or right click on a player (ie to try and resign him) My system specs are intel 2.6 p4 with a raedon 9000 graphics card with 2 gigs of ram Thanks milo