Fielding Rating Missing

ganguy · 03-28-2007, 09:33 AM

I started my Historical League in 1960, as that is the first year I remember anything about baseball. I am managing Cleveland (I know, I know). My issue if that Johnny Temple's fielding rating at 2B has disappeared. I noticed it on the playing field. In his profile, he is listed as a 2B. Ratings, he has a 2 at third base, nothing at second base. I go into the editor, his Position/Role is Second Base. For experience, he has 200 (maximum) at second base, 70 at third base. I have set his position to 2B, yet still, no fielding rating at 2B. He is 100% rested, Status is OK.

In real life, he played 77 games at 2B, only 17 at 3B.

Can anyone help? Thank You!

Ron

f.montoya · 03-28-2007, 09:41 AM

Playing with scouts "on"?

ganguy · 03-28-2007, 10:13 AM

No, Scouts are not on. Under Game / Game Setup, the option to "Use Complete Scouting System" is not checked. If there is something else in reference to scouts, I may be missing it.

Ron

f.montoya · 03-28-2007, 10:37 AM

Can you put your league file up somewhere so we can take a look at it?

ganguy · 03-28-2007, 11:03 AM

I will work on that. I have backed it up and am currently zipping it up. I will see where I can put it and get back to you sometime today.

Thanks for being willing to help.

Ron

f.montoya · 03-28-2007, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganguy

I will work on that. I have backed it up and am currently zipping it up. I will see where I can put it and get back to you sometime today.

Thanks for being willing to help.

Ron

No problem. I'll be signing out for a while. If no one else chimes in to follow up here, I'll check back myself.

Getch · 03-28-2007, 11:55 AM

I saw this during Beta. I logged one TT on it for catchers, 1487, but actually saw it happen for all players. If a rating drops below a certain threshold (depends on the rating/position), the player no longer has a rating for that position. For instance, if a catcher arm drops below 10/255, he'll have no rating at catcher, even though he has full experience and fielding abilities at that position (and the editor even shows a rating for C as well). From my memory, I remember 3B losing it's rating if his infield arm really sucks, and I did other similar tests for other positions.

Markus marked the TT as Ignore, probably because this is intentional. My guess is his argument is that one of his ratings for infield has gotten so bad that he shouldn't even be considered a 2B. Judging from the behavior of OOTP around this area, it looks to be intentional.

ganguy · 03-28-2007, 05:28 PM

OK, I can understand that. So I should operate on the assumption that the game is acknowledging his age and apparent deteriorating defensive skills?

I just noticed that the same thing has happened to Ted William's rating in LF. He doesn't have one.

Now...another question...Temple has committed 1 error at 2B in 12 games since I noticed his rating has disappeared. Am I gambling by continuing to play him at 2B?

One more thing...what an incredible game this is.

Thanks for your answer.

Ron

Getch · 03-28-2007, 08:26 PM

It may be his infield range rating that is low, which wouldn't show up as errors, but means he's still a defensive liability. I'd be concerned, but if he's better than anyone else with the bat, nothing you can do about it really.

03-28-2007, 09:33 AM	#1
ganguy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 50	Fielding Rating Missing I started my Historical League in 1960, as that is the first year I remember anything about baseball. I am managing Cleveland (I know, I know). My issue if that Johnny Temple's fielding rating at 2B has disappeared. I noticed it on the playing field. In his profile, he is listed as a 2B. Ratings, he has a 2 at third base, nothing at second base. I go into the editor, his Position/Role is Second Base. For experience, he has 200 (maximum) at second base, 70 at third base. I have set his position to 2B, yet still, no fielding rating at 2B. He is 100% rested, Status is OK. In real life, he played 77 games at 2B, only 17 at 3B. Can anyone help? Thank You! Ron

03-28-2007, 09:41 AM	#2
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,069	Playing with scouts "on"? __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball ex-Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (OOTP web hosting - Customized sites for online leagues - Sign up, Connect OOTP and Play!) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

03-28-2007, 10:13 AM	#3
ganguy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 50	Scouts No, Scouts are not on. Under Game / Game Setup, the option to "Use Complete Scouting System" is not checked. If there is something else in reference to scouts, I may be missing it. Ron

03-28-2007, 10:37 AM	#4
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,069	Can you put your league file up somewhere so we can take a look at it? __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball ex-Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (OOTP web hosting - Customized sites for online leagues - Sign up, Connect OOTP and Play!) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

03-28-2007, 11:03 AM	#5
ganguy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 50	Posting League File I will work on that. I have backed it up and am currently zipping it up. I will see where I can put it and get back to you sometime today. Thanks for being willing to help. Ron

03-28-2007, 11:55 AM	#7
Getch All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 868	I saw this during Beta. I logged one TT on it for catchers, 1487, but actually saw it happen for all players. If a rating drops below a certain threshold (depends on the rating/position), the player no longer has a rating for that position. For instance, if a catcher arm drops below 10/255, he'll have no rating at catcher, even though he has full experience and fielding abilities at that position (and the editor even shows a rating for C as well). From my memory, I remember 3B losing it's rating if his infield arm really sucks, and I did other similar tests for other positions. Markus marked the TT as Ignore, probably because this is intentional. My guess is his argument is that one of his ratings for infield has gotten so bad that he shouldn't even be considered a 2B. Judging from the behavior of OOTP around this area, it looks to be intentional.

03-28-2007, 05:28 PM	#8
ganguy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 50	Disappearing fielding ratings OK, I can understand that. So I should operate on the assumption that the game is acknowledging his age and apparent deteriorating defensive skills? I just noticed that the same thing has happened to Ted William's rating in LF. He doesn't have one. Now...another question...Temple has committed 1 error at 2B in 12 games since I noticed his rating has disappeared. Am I gambling by continuing to play him at 2B? One more thing...what an incredible game this is. Thanks for your answer. Ron

03-28-2007, 08:26 PM	#9
Getch All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 868	It may be his infield range rating that is low, which wouldn't show up as errors, but means he's still a defensive liability. I'd be concerned, but if he's better than anyone else with the bat, nothing you can do about it really.