3rd Straight Loss Due to AI Pitcher Mgmt

Ambermonk · 07-02-2008, 06:07 AM

I suffered my 3rd straight loss due to the pitcher being left in by the AI long after he became tired. In the 7th Inning my pitcher had thrown 107 pitches and the bases were loaded. The AI manager never did take him out and he lost the lead, the game, gave up 7 runs, and ended up pitching 145 Pitches.

Solonor · 07-02-2008, 08:08 AM

When you go into the game under the options, who is running Substitutions? You or the AI? If you didn't change it, the default is for you to run everything in a game. So, it's not going to automatically lift the pitcher. It's waiting for you to do it!

Ambermonk · 07-02-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Solonor

When you go into the game under the options, who is running Substitutions? You or the AI? If you didn't change it, the default is for you to run everything in a game. So, it's not going to automatically lift the pitcher. It's waiting for you to do it!

The AI was running everything. Thanks for the reply.

pstrickert · 07-02-2008, 12:19 PM

I think you're on to something here, Ambermonk.

Solonor · 07-02-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambermonk

The AI was running everything. Thanks for the reply.

Doh! I see that now by the fact that your only option is "1-Continue".

How many pitchers does that team have? I think they're going to want to see your league files for this.

Ambermonk · 07-02-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Solonor

How many pitchers does that team have? I think they're going to want to see your league files for this.

The team has 10 MR and 4 CL. My files are at your disposal.

Solonor · 07-02-2008, 02:05 PM

Which one is yours? I don't see an ambermonk.zip out there.

Ambermonk · 07-02-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Solonor

Which one is yours? I don't see an ambermonk.zip out there.

Haven't sent it yet. Where do you want me to send it?

Tony M · 07-02-2008, 03:44 PM

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Haven't sent it yet. Where do you want me to send it?

Can you follow the instructions in the "how to ftp files to us" thread please.

Ambermonk · 07-02-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony M

Can you follow the instructions in the "how to ftp files to us" thread please.

The zipped file for my .DAT files is 5.8 Mb and the limit for zipped files to this site is 100 KB. The zipped world.DAT file is 1.8 Mb. What do you suggest?

Tony M · 07-02-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambermonk

The zipped file for my .DAT files is 5.8 Mb and the limit for zipped files to this site is 100 KB. The zipped world.DAT file is 1.8 Mb. What do you suggest?

copying from Steve's thread

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Originally Posted by from battists

You can FTP your files to us using your handy web browser, or any FTP client such as SmartFTP or FileZilla.

When using your web browser, just navigate to ftp://ootpsupport.com/incoming/ootp/saved_games/, and press Enter. Copy and paste your files there.

This FTP server uses anonymous access, so you should not need to provide a user name or password.

Typically, to troubleshoot a problem with your league, we usually need all of the files in your saved game directory that end with .dat. (coaches.dat, players.dat, etc.). Please zip all of the files up, and name the zip file with your forum user name; for example, battists.zip. Then, post back in the technical support thread that you created to let us know that you posted a file to the server, and be sure to tell us the name of the zip file that you posted.

hope that helps

Ambermonk · 07-02-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony M

copying from Steve's thread

hope that helps

I've tried connecting for nearly 2 hours and every time I get a "timed out" error message.

Solonor · 07-03-2008, 08:26 AM

Try uploading it my ftp site.

ftp://ftp.rasreth.com/

username is sgcbl@rasreth.com
password is sgcbl

Ambermonk · 07-03-2008, 12:44 PM

Sorry, All FTP site (including ones other than yours) are timing out.

For what its worth...
My IP is Comcast.net
My Browser is Flock

TribeFanInNC · 07-03-2008, 01:07 PM

Only thing I noticed: your screenshot post of the strategy settings is for 'Tied Ballgame', but the game was not tied. May want to confirm that the other situations are similar.

Only time I've seen this in previous versions is when the whole rest of the bullpen is equally as gassed. Agree that it seems fishy.

Ambermonk · 07-03-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

Only thing I noticed: your screenshot post of the strategy settings is for 'Tied Ballgame', but the game was not tied. May want to confirm that the other situations are similar.

Only time I've seen this in previous versions is when the whole rest of the bullpen is equally as gassed. Agree that it seems fishy.

I acknowledge that some of the settings were at "default" but that has been corrected now. The remaining issue is that the default strategy settings need to be looked at. IMO pitchers are being left in way too long. Thanks for your input!

Nutlaw · 07-09-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambermonk

The remaining issue is that the default strategy settings need to be looked at. IMO pitchers are being left in way too long.

That's a tough one to log. Can you please try to provide some more examples?

Ambermonk · 07-09-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

That's a tough one to log. Can you please try to provide some more examples?

Certainly, I will post them as they come.

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

That's a tough one to log. Can you please try to provide some more examples?

As requested. I had a 4-run lead in the 8th inning, but the Computer Manager made the pitcher stay in for the entire inning for no good reason (124 pitches).

Pic-1 shows the broadcast view.
Pic-2 show the strategy settings for the situation in question (8th inning, 4-run lead). I also had plenty of good (and rested) MRs to come in. You can see that I had the "quick hook" nearly set to maximum! The pitcher ended up giving up a run that was, in my mind, entirely preventable.

As mentioned before, the "High" setting for all the options is on the right except for the "Hook" options (which are on the left). Could this be a coding error? Am I actually telling the AI to never take the pitcher out?

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

That's a tough one to log. Can you please try to provide some more examples?

Here's another example, although not as extreme as the one above.

It was the bottom of the 5th and I was behind 5 to 1. My relief pitcher (Pollen) had already pitched 2 innings in relief. The AI manager allowed the pitcher to bat for himself - and reduce the chances for a rally. The "Pinch-Hit for Pitchers" option was towards the right ("Frequently") but not all the way over.

07-02-2008, 06:07 AM	#1
Ambermonk All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morro Bay, CA Posts: 1,257	3rd Straight Loss Due to AI Pitcher Mgmt I suffered my 3rd straight loss due to the pitcher being left in by the AI long after he became tired. In the 7th Inning my pitcher had thrown 107 pitches and the bases were loaded. The AI manager never did take him out and he lost the lead, the game, gave up 7 runs, and ended up pitching 145 Pitches. Attached Images __________________ *I cast this question into your soul, that I might know how deep it is* - Friedrich Nietzsche It often shows a fine command of language - to say nothing! - Bertrand Russell

07-02-2008, 08:08 AM	#2
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,459	When you go into the game under the options, who is running Substitutions? You or the AI? If you didn't change it, the default is for you to run everything in a game. So, it's not going to automatically lift the pitcher. It's waiting for you to do it! __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

07-02-2008, 02:05 PM	#7
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,459	Which one is yours? I don't see an ambermonk.zip out there. __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

07-03-2008, 08:26 AM	#13
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,459	Try uploading it my ftp site. ftp://ftp.rasreth.com/ username is sgcbl@rasreth.com password is sgcbl __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

07-03-2008, 12:44 PM	#14
Ambermonk All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morro Bay, CA Posts: 1,257	Sorry, All FTP site (including ones other than yours) are timing out. For what its worth... My IP is Comcast.net My Browser is Flock __________________ *I cast this question into your soul, that I might know how deep it is* - Friedrich Nietzsche It often shows a fine command of language - to say nothing! - Bertrand Russell

07-02-2008, 12:19 PM	#4
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,322	I think you're on to something here, Ambermonk.

07-03-2008, 01:07 PM	#15
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	Only thing I noticed: your screenshot post of the strategy settings is for 'Tied Ballgame', but the game was not tied. May want to confirm that the other situations are similar. Only time I've seen this in previous versions is when the whole rest of the bullpen is equally as gassed. Agree that it seems fishy.