Confused about "Injury History"

mpejkrm · 09-03-2013, 05:19 PM

How exactly is a player's "injury history" rating calculated? I have two examples that confused me a bit.

I traded for a promising shortstop prospect with a "durable" injury history. He did pan out, but after 5 seasons with no more than 100 games due to multiple injuries per year, he began to decline, and i finally released him three years later. 8 seasons, and his most games played was 112. The other 7? 64, 81, 92, 84, 57, 72, 46. He's a free agent, and his injury history is still "durable".

And then there's my ace, who's made 8 straight seasons with 30+ starts and never been placed on the DL. And his injury history is "Wrecked". What gives?

jmolony3 · 09-03-2013, 06:33 PM

It appears to be a propensity for future injury vs a history of injuries.

RchW · 09-03-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mpejkrm

How exactly is a player's "injury history" rating calculated? I have two examples that confused me a bit.

I traded for a promising shortstop prospect with a "durable" injury history. He did pan out, but after 5 seasons with no more than 100 games due to multiple injuries per year, he began to decline, and i finally released him three years later. 8 seasons, and his most games played was 112. The other 7? 64, 81, 92, 84, 57, 72, 46. He's a free agent, and his injury history is still "durable".

And then there's my ace, who's made 8 straight seasons with 30+ starts and never been placed on the DL. And his injury history is "Wrecked". What gives?

The game is like that sometimes. I wish I had such luck with "wrecked" players. I had a player come to me after his 3rd season, either durable or normal. He won 2 consecutive MVP even though he missed 22 and 25 games each year. He had a full season the next year but got injured in the playoffs. The next year he missed 5 weeks but would have been MVP if he had played all year. I traded him after his next year (39 games) and he played 7 injury filled seasons starting as fragile and now wrecked. He is a FA now and will get signed.

I hated it but it seems annoyingly realistic.

Nunyer · 09-03-2013, 06:58 PM

The descriptions are a bit confusing. In my current league there is a closer who has gone 8 or 10 seasons without anything worse than a couple of day-to-day issues... but he is "wrecked" based on injuries sustained in the minors.

I don't know how accurate descriptors like "fragile" and "wrecked" are when a player has injury filled younger years but later puts up a reliable decade of ML service... Especially 'wrecked'.. as that implies that he cannot perform.

As jmolony3 alluded to above with propensity and history... maybe those two things need to be broken out into separate ratings. A young fireballer who blew out his elbow might come back as more of a finesse pitcher... and while his history would look poor, his post-injury playing style would reduce his future propensity.

Of course, you'd have no real knowledge of injury propensity for most high school prospects... and I would think few would have any significant injury history while still being prospects... Yet it's not totally uncommon to see a 19 or 20 year old 'fragile' guy with no recorded injuries as a professional.

So yea... the whole system can be a bit goofy...

09-03-2013, 05:19 PM	#1
mpejkrm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 951	Confused about "Injury History" How exactly is a player's "injury history" rating calculated? I have two examples that confused me a bit. I traded for a promising shortstop prospect with a "durable" injury history. He did pan out, but after 5 seasons with no more than 100 games due to multiple injuries per year, he began to decline, and i finally released him three years later. 8 seasons, and his most games played was 112. The other 7? 64, 81, 92, 84, 57, 72, 46. He's a free agent, and his injury history is still "durable". And then there's my ace, who's made 8 straight seasons with 30+ starts and never been placed on the DL. And his injury history is "Wrecked". What gives?

09-03-2013, 06:33 PM	#2
jmolony3 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 190	Confused about "Injury History" It appears to be a propensity for future injury vs a history of injuries.

09-03-2013, 06:58 PM	#4
Nunyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Baseball Ned Flanders stares into your soul... Posts: 594	The descriptions are a bit confusing. In my current league there is a closer who has gone 8 or 10 seasons without anything worse than a couple of day-to-day issues... but he is "wrecked" based on injuries sustained in the minors. I don't know how accurate descriptors like "fragile" and "wrecked" are when a player has injury filled younger years but later puts up a reliable decade of ML service... Especially 'wrecked'.. as that implies that he cannot perform. As jmolony3 alluded to above with propensity and history... maybe those two things need to be broken out into separate ratings. A young fireballer who blew out his elbow might come back as more of a finesse pitcher... and while his history would look poor, his post-injury playing style would reduce his future propensity. Of course, you'd have no real knowledge of injury propensity for most high school prospects... and I would think few would have any significant injury history while still being prospects... Yet it's not totally uncommon to see a 19 or 20 year old 'fragile' guy with no recorded injuries as a professional. So yea... the whole system can be a bit goofy...