Baseball stats vs football stats

jpeters1734 · 08-26-2015, 12:20 PM

First, I understand they're completely different sports, but something occurred to me the other night as I was thinking of league ideas. I was going to make an NFL style league with 16 game schedules, and then I started thinking about sample size. A player could play his entire career and not have enough games for an accurate sample.

It's kind of a weird to me that an NFL player plays such a short season compared to his baseball counterpart

OBSL Commish · 08-26-2015, 02:57 PM

Someone else tried doing this a while back and I tried to find the thread because I had responded on it. But, basically, my response to him was to up the modifiers on the league stats. (Game Settings, League Settings, Stats & AI). He was using a NFL schedule like you and his games were still showing MLB-like scores. If you want NFL-like scores, triple or quadruple those modifiers. Make a copy of your league first and use the copy as a test league to see how those changes affect the scores until you find a combination of modifiers that looks like it produces realistic results.

NYY #23 · 08-26-2015, 08:09 PM

I did one of these leagues a year or so ago, and was thinking of starting it up again as football season gets closer. I've been playing around trying to get the league totals more like football scores and can share what I've been using if you are interested.

The sample size is always going to be an issue, but I did about 15 years and it wasn't too bad. You'd definitely see some weird things, but maybe not as much as I was expecting.

Giants44 · 08-26-2015, 09:26 PM

besides pure sample size the strength of opponent is also an unbalanced factor in football stats vs baseball stats.

lies, damn lies and statistics - never been more true then in the case of football.

jpeters1734 · 08-26-2015, 09:53 PM

thanks, but i'm not looking to make the scores look like football. I just think it's interesting that in the NFL, a few seasons of hall of fame caliber numbers equals to a flash in the pan compared to baseball.

A football player could have a bad 6 game stretch and be out of football, but a baseball player with a bad week gets a pick-me-up pat on the back.

It also makes me wonder if it was possible to replay NFL history 100 times, would the same players remain great or are they great because of small sample size?

RchW · 08-26-2015, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

It's kind of a weird to me that an NFL player plays such a short season compared to his baseball counterpart

It's weird because it seems perfectly normal to me.

08-26-2015, 12:20 PM	#1
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,216	Baseball stats vs football stats First, I understand they're completely different sports, but something occurred to me the other night as I was thinking of league ideas. I was going to make an NFL style league with 16 game schedules, and then I started thinking about sample size. A player could play his entire career and not have enough games for an accurate sample. It's kind of a weird to me that an NFL player plays such a short season compared to his baseball counterpart __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

08-26-2015, 09:26 PM	#4
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	besides pure sample size the strength of opponent is also an unbalanced factor in football stats vs baseball stats. lies, damn lies and statistics - never been more true then in the case of football. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

08-26-2015, 09:53 PM	#5
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,216	thanks, but i'm not looking to make the scores look like football. I just think it's interesting that in the NFL, a few seasons of hall of fame caliber numbers equals to a flash in the pan compared to baseball. A football player could have a bad 6 game stretch and be out of football, but a baseball player with a bad week gets a pick-me-up pat on the back. It also makes me wonder if it was possible to replay NFL history 100 times, would the same players remain great or are they great because of small sample size? __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

08-26-2015, 02:57 PM	#2
OBSL Commish All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 946	Someone else tried doing this a while back and I tried to find the thread because I had responded on it. But, basically, my response to him was to up the modifiers on the league stats. (Game Settings, League Settings, Stats & AI). He was using a NFL schedule like you and his games were still showing MLB-like scores. If you want NFL-like scores, triple or quadruple those modifiers. Make a copy of your league first and use the copy as a test league to see how those changes affect the scores until you find a combination of modifiers that looks like it produces realistic results.

08-26-2015, 08:09 PM	#3
NYY #23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 13,112	I did one of these leagues a year or so ago, and was thinking of starting it up again as football season gets closer. I've been playing around trying to get the league totals more like football scores and can share what I've been using if you are interested. The sample size is always going to be an issue, but I did about 15 years and it wasn't too bad. You'd definitely see some weird things, but maybe not as much as I was expecting.